Can't be that much of a choke hold if you come back to be abused by the apple products to play your beloved games.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I hear you Sieghard! I tend to avoid such inflammatory words and phrases > myself because I want people to read the content of my message and not get > caught up in any colorful choice of words. I also realize that some people > make a very informed decision on what device to use, and I don’t want to cast > any dispersion on anyone just because they have different priorities and make > a choice I wouldn’t have made. I’m not perfect, but I try to treat everyone > and the decisions they’ve made with respect. I also try to talk in examples > rather than making blanket statements. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > Why do people have to be so intense and use terms like "choke hold" It's very > simple, if you don't like the way Apple does things use an Android phone, but > what's the point in these words or terms which are utterly subjective. I have > used an iPhone since 2009 and not once have I felt "choked", if you have then > I'm glad you now have an Android phone which gives you all the freedom to do > exactly what you want although I am sure that even the grat platform of the > Android OS has at least one or two drawbacks or maybe it is entirely perfect > by now. Whatever works for the user is what you should use. > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Donna > Casteen > Sent: August 23, 2021 6:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > Devin, I too have escaped the choke hold of Apple. My iPhone is used to play > games that android does not have. I also get to continue using an accessible > keyboard like Flick Type.😌 And before I'm told I'm no longer welcome in the > group, I still update my phone & participate in the public beta program. & > use my iPad for my creative writing course. > > Donna > > > Donna > > > So, I can no longer participate in discussion just because I, who have been > using Apple devices for years, no longer use mine regularly and promote the > fact that Android is a viable alternative when huge issues of Apple's control > pops up? I'm glad you're not a moderator. > Devin Prater > [email protected] > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:21 PM Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > I wrote him as well. I primarily use MBraille when I don't have a keybaord > available. > I do not mean to minimize the impact on dedicated FlickType users; and I > wonder if somehow this issue between FlickType and the App Store/Apple was > brought to mainstream media's attention if something more would be > accomplished. > I was partly reacting to someone who has already jumped ship to Android whom > I hope stops contributing to Apple discussions if he is no longer going to > use Apple products. > Personally, I can braille faster than I could use FlickType, but I fully > understand the impact it would make on me if MBraille had to go away because > of some unknown issue with Apple, and I would have the same reaction you and > others are having to FlickType's removal. > But, I have bluetooth keyboards and braille displays to use if MBraille faced > the same fate; so I still say, it is not the end of the world; but a damnable > inconvenience, which probably should not have to happen. > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Richard, > > While I agree that the loss of FlickType is not the end of the world, it’s > going to dramatically impact how I use my iPhone. I much prefer typing my own > content as opposed to dictating it and FlickType has made it very easy to > compose text messages and emails with my iPhone’s screen fairly quickly > without the need for another keyboard. > > Just out of curiosity, how much do you use FlickType for input on your > iDevice? > > I will certainly adapt to the loss of FlickType but my speed and accuracy of > input is going to take a big hit. I did write an email to Phil Schiller > expressing my concerns but realistically, I’m not holding my breath that it > will make any difference. I do believe that users are responsible for > providing feedback when an app’s accessibility is broken or an accessible app > is totally withdrawn as in this case due to some dispute with the App Store. > I’ll continually encourage those in our community to provide this feedback > because sometimes, the squeaky wheel does get the grease. > > Alan Lemly > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 10:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > I Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch to the > “somewhat dark side, grin” will do so, which is what it would take to impact > Apple’s wallet. A few people switching to Android certainly won’t. > > I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too bad, but > not the end of the world. > > > > Richard > Software means never having to say you're finished > > > Web site: www.turner42.com > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Devin > Prater > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > I voted with my wallet and went with Android. Sure, it's got its rough edges, > but at least I control what is on my phone, what can go on my phone, what app > stores are on my phone, and can even play the video games I'm good at, on my > phone. Its not perfect as I said, but I have control, and Apple, or Google > for that matter, cannot take it away. I think the only way Apple will change > so drastically is if they notice a decrease in money. Their App Store is very > dear to them as a money-making ability, so I doubt a few people complaining > about a specialized app will move them. After all, thousands of people > complaining about CSAM hasn't, and thousands complaining about fortnight > hasn't either. If it does, though, that's great. But if not, prepare to vote > with your money. Android isn't as dark a side as you think. :) > Devin Prater > [email protected] > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:35 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > <[email protected]> wrote: > Jonathan Mosen is urging as many of us as possible to email Apple’s Phil > Schiller [email protected] to urge him to intervene personally to sort out > the problems leading to the developer of FlickType withdrawing his app after > his updates were rejected for mystifying reasons. > Regards > Harry > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected]. 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