It certainly is possible to subscribe to news separately. What I am suggesting is that since they offer the big bundle at a discount, but the assumption is that if you subscribe you can actually use all those things, which we can’t, and they offer a smaller bundle which also has stuff that we can’t use, like arcade, they should offer more flexible bundles. I suspect this would be useful for people not just us. How many people use arcade or want it? I just think they need to be more flexible in the bundling process. They’re offering discounts, but only if you’re willing to buy the big deal, or if you like what’s offered in the cheaper bundle. Of course it is their choice what they offer. But if they offered a bundle that had stuff that is actually all usable by us, I would get it. Music, TV, and News. Never mind fitness and never mind arcade. But they don’t offer that. Arcade is in everything, and it’s totally inaccessible, so it’s a waste.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Last time I checked I was still able to subscribe to Apple News separately > so unless this was a recent change it should still be possible. I actually > only recently subscribed to their large $30 something Canadian bundle because > with Apple News, Apple Music Family and Apple TV it was already pretty much > the price of the big bundle and my wife and I both had the 50 Gb storage as > well which is only $1.29 or something here in Canada, but I now also added my > Mom to the family group and she also had this so we are saving another $4 or > so. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: September 17, 2021 1:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users > > This is an interesting area of discussion. I honestly cannot imagine how you > would do a description track with a work out track. I get how the exercises > could be described by somebody who could be good at that, really getting down > into the exact positions of everything, and describing it in a way that > someone who has never seen could grasp and do. I could see it as a separate > track, but trying to do that at the same time as you have a track with a > trainer or coach plus music, and trying to understand all that in real time? > I don’t know. It would be great of course. But I’m thinking that they might > need a separate descriptive track that a blind person would have to listen to > separately to get the hang of things. I know somebody who has done rowing for > instance. And she said that with the Apple Fitness+ rowing app, she would not > have known what to do if she had an already experienced rowing in real life > on a rowing team. In the meantime, I sure do wish that Apple would offer more > flexibility in their bundles. In order to get Apple news plus for instance, > you have to buy the big $30 bundle, which includes the arcade and fitness > plus, which are useless if you are a voiceover user. TV plus and Apple News+ > are both accessible. So how about an accessibility bundle that includes the > things that we could actually use at a decent price? I have actually > suggested that to Apple accessibility, hoping that they pass it along. Why > should I have to buy stuff I can’t use? > For that matter, if one is profoundly deaf and likes the Apple stuff, why > should they have to pay for music if they want all the other stuff, seeing as > how music is something that a profoundly deaf person is not going to benefit > from. If Apple wants to really take the next step in showing they mean what > they say, they should have more bundles tailored with Accessibility in mind. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That is an interesting area of discussion because Apple is so good with >> accessibility and inclusion in some areas and in others they are not. I >> could swear I heard a reference regarding this when they talked about Apple >> Fitness Plus and this would be a great area for any lobbyists to engage with >> Apple so these workouts eventually get good audio descriptions. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> CHELA Robles >> Sent: September 16, 2021 9:02 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users >> >> Hey Mark Taylor, it’s very interesting you bring up this topic because I >> just tried it out not too long ago in fact I think I tried it out on Monday >> and I quickly gave up because there weren’t any audio descriptions during >> the video as to how to do certain things that’s why I chose to do the >> walking workouts since all I had to do was walk even though I really wanted >> to do the body core workouts those were not really described unfortunately >> there’s some really good cardio ones but again you run the risk of them not >> being described as far as the movements go. The walking ones are easier for >> me since all I have to do is walk or run for a certain amount of minutes. >> Sorry I can’t be very helpful. I only just recently started using Apple >> fitness plus whatever it’s called since I already have an Apple one >> subscription that has four services in one. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:00 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Question: does anyone use or has anyone used Apple Fitness Plus? 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