I also just posted what AppleVis says about it. I need to go and redefine my custom gestures since it uses my gestures for copy and paste … I wish they had checked with me first, 😊.
I’m not sure it will be worth it, but maybe so. Time will tell. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 7:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] Here’s what the online iPhone user guide has to say: Use flat or grouped navigation Go to Settings [https://help.apple.com/assets/608C3E19B44E7E1FB5650766/608C3E1BB44E7E1FB5650790/en_US/492fec5aff74dbdef9b526177c3804b4.png] > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Navigation Style, then choose one of the following: · Flat: VoiceOver moves sequentially through each item on the screen when you use the move next and previous commands. · Grouped: VoiceOver moves through items and groups of items on the screen. To move into a group, use a two-finger swipe right. To move out of a group, use a two-finger swipe left. I’m none the wiser not having played around with this feature yet. Malcolm Parfitt On 24 Sep 2021, at 15:10, Richard Turner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style to the Rotor. Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two options; flat, or grouped. So far, I am clueless what it should do. If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier. I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books app, found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making with the focus jumping. I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had time. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find it in Settings or in an open app? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Anna Dresner Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Weather. Hi, You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group. Best, Anna On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Weather. Yes you have to go line by lne Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric pressure? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Weather. 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