yes!  You need to be a good self advocate and have a doctor who will cooperate. 
I know someone who even though he is on insulin, had to fight with Kaiser for a 
year before they would provide it for him.  These are the consequences of 
socialized medicine where bean counters can overrule doctors and patients.

Andy

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  From: 'Nicki Keck' via VIPhone 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived


  The doctor got it for my husband before he got on insulin. He wanted to 
monitor it before the insulin started so we would know how the sugars were 
running and how much insulin to prescribe. He had to talk to the insurance 
person to finally get it approved. It's not easy to get it if you are not on 
insulin. It's possible but not easy. I think part of the reason we got it for 
my husband is because it was clear he was going to be going on insulin.  We 
monitored it, went to the doctor, showed him the app, which he was absolutely 
fascinated with, by the way, and now he is on the insulin so we shouldn't have 
trouble keeping it covered. We did give them the argument of blindness and 
difficulty monitoring sugars with conventional meters, but even that argument 
didn't work right away. 


  Nicki


    On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:25 PM, Robert stigile <[email protected]> 
wrote:


    
    Hi, it’s Robert.
    So, you need to have your doctor tell them that you do not need insulin but 
in order to keep your blood sugars in tight control you need to freestyle libre 
patches.
    Your doctor will need to submit reports every three months to let them know 
that you are still not using insulin but that your blood sugars are in tighter 
control by using the free style libre patch.
    Also, your doctor needs to submit a report stating that due to your 
blindness you’re not able to test using a meter as well due to not getting 
enough blood on the strips. That is what my doctor has told Abbott and they are 
fine with that.
    You just have to have your doctor keep pushing it.
    Good luck! 


    Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
    National Federation of the Blind of California
    President San Fernando Valley Chapter
    818-381-9568




      On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Anthony Vece <[email protected]> wrote:


      Hi Bob; I am having a terrible time getting the freestyle libre. They 
keep telling me that I need to be on insulin. Three doctors have tried to get 
this for me through my medical plan and Medicare part B to no success. Please 
help? Thank you Anthony


      Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!


        On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Robert stigile <[email protected]> 
wrote:


        
        Hi all,
        First, no you do not need to be on insulin do use the Libre, as I am 
not using insulin and I have the libre sensors.
        My doctor was able to get the Libre for me because I said I wanted to 
have better control of my diabetes and I can’t do that because it’s difficult 
to get blood test since I can’t see it all and it’s hard to get enough blood on 
the strip using a meter.
        Secondly when you are using the app on iPhone to check your readings 
with the Libre patch you need to put the top of the phone against the patch and 
then it will scan it and give you your readings. Again, you need to touch the 
top of the foam to the patch.
        I hope this helps. 


        Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
        National Federation of the Blind of California
        President San Fernando Valley Chapter
        818-381-9568




          On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Lynn White <[email protected]> 
wrote:


          Hi Linda,
          My understanding is that you have to be on insulin. But to be safe, I 
would either check with the insurance company or your doctor.


          Sent from my iPhone


            On Sep 25, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Lynda Ingraham 
<[email protected]> wrote:


            


            Sent from my iPhone


              On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Vivian Conger 
<[email protected]> wrote:


              
              Thanks Everyone,



              Well I’m still not able to scan the sensor with my phone and 
think that yes I may have to wait until I apply a new sensor and then use my 
Libre 2 app to activate it.



              I even tried having the reader more than 20 feet away from me and 
my phone thinking the phone might work if the reader was out-of-range.  Didn’t 
make a difference.  😉



              The sensor is for 14 days and the screen specifically says the 
reader is Libre 2.  Using iPhone SE 2020 and IOS 14.8.



              So for now I will use the reader to scan the sensor and have 
Voice Dream Scanner read what the display shows.  



              Looking forward to using my phone as the alerts on the reader are 
not very loud.



              Again thanks everyone for all the comments and suggestions.



              Vivian and Sallie





              From: 'NickiKeck' via VIPhone <[email protected]> 
              Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:45 PM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: Re: Free Style Libre Arrived



              As others have said, you don’t need the reader.  I am not 
diabetic, but my husband is, and he is totally blind and uses it every day with 
just the app.  I have a feeling that since you activated the sensor with the 
reader, that you may not be able to use this particular sensor with the app, 
but after this 14-day sensor is finished, just apply the new sensor and use the 
app to scan it.  Also, as others have said, after you activate it, you will 
need to wait an hour.  The app will notify you when your hour is over and 
prompt you to scan for a reading.  We have never had a reader with my husband’s 
unit, as I talked with a coworker and he told me not to get it, as the app is 
the most accessible way to use the Libre.  We told the doctor that we didn’t 
want or need the reader.  Hope this is helpful.







                On Sep 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Joney Owen <[email protected]> 
wrote:



                The only thing I can suggest is that you wait and install the 
next sensor with your phone. I know that they said you could do the other, but 
I don’t recall how it was done. I used libre freestyle for quite a while. I’ve 
now switched over to the Libre 2. Which has the alarm sensors.



                Sent from my iPhone





                  On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  

                  Hi Vivian,

                  You didn’t need the reader at all. I don’t know how you might 
get the device to change from the reader to the app on your phone. I have used 
the libre with my phone, but 10 R. I’m not diabetic, so I only use the 
continuous glucose monitor every so often, just to keep tabs on things. It 
works real well, at least it did the last time I used it. But as I say, I do 
not know if it is possible to switch your sensor over to the phone from the 
reader. Just don’t use the reader again. It was an unnecessary expense that 
they should not have sold you.





                  Sent from my iPhone





                    On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Vivian Conger 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    

                    Hi All,



                    I received my Free Style Libre earlier this week and had an 
appointment with the nurse yesterday.  She apologized that it didn’t talk.  I 
told her that it does now that there is an app for the iPhone.



                    She set up the reader and I inserted the new sensor.  After 
I got home, I installed Libre 2 on my phone but it won’t scan the sensor as it 
was installed on a different device.  I received an email stating that this 
could be done but have not figured out how to do it yet.



                    I’ve used Seeing AI to read the screen with limited success 
but just tried VD Scanner and it was perfect.



                    I still would like to be able to scan with my phone instead 
of the reader.  Does anyone have any suggestions?



                    Many thanks for assistance.



                    Vivian and Sallie











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            I have a question for those of you that are using the Dexcom or the 
libre. Those of you that are comfortable answering I appreciate your help. 
Those of you that have these systems, are you either on insulin or an oral 
agent to control your diabetes?


            I have pre-diabetes in my fingers are getting damn sore. LOL


            I am supposed to be starting a weekly injectable. I’m wondering 
weather I could possibly be approved through my insurance company for one of 
the systems based on either pre-diabetes or the fact that I’ll be starting the 
injectable. I understand that all insurance companies are different. However, I 
was wondering if it is an absolute that you must be a type two diabetic to 
receive one of these systems.


            Thank you very much.


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