Harry, if I can make a suggestion to help in learning to become more comfortable with braille.
Mute speech. Write a sentence and read it on the braille display. Use the braille display to fix errors. Then, turn speech back on to confirm. VoiceOver speaking while using a braille display has always been more of a distraction than a help. It shouldn't be that way, but that is the reality. HTH, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 3:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15? Thank you for trying this out, Richard! Now that I have restarted my phone several times I realise that the problem of mixing or repeating words seems to have disappeared. I think what continues to spook me a bit is what VoiceOver is echoing, which is not what I expect to be echoed. I am using Brailliant BI 40 X braille display paired with my iPhone 13 pro and VoiceOver is set to voice characters and words and some punctuation. Whilst I am typing in for example email VoiceOver echoes very confusing random letters or echoes a word away before the letter I have just typed. I also keep finding that VoiceOver fails consistently to voice spaces and a lot of punctuation I have just typed. I tried setting punctuation in verbosity to all that then VoiceOver started reading out the most bizarre bits of punctuation on the screen is where there was no punctuation and when I went back to some punctuation in verbosity VoiceOver continued to voice call punctuation until I restarted the phone. Very complex! I am a real beginner with Braille still so I do have speech to help reassure me about what I am typing so strange behaviour with VoiceOver really throws me! Regards Harry > On 24 Sep 2021, at 22:30, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, I cannot duplicate this with an Orbit Reader 40 on an SE 2020 running > the release of iOS 15. > And, you cannot send attachments to this list, so your screen recording did > not come through. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > - Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3447bf0bdd9a4e94b54c08d980d85116%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682488831427418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=f7yNiDRX2%2FvjXtcK4dH7DiY0Th2ypuPUGJ5oCq7gGFA%3D&reserved=0 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:58 AM > To: Abridged Recipients <[email protected]> > Subject: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15? > > Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a > Brailliant Bi 40 X. > Open Notes app and create new note. > Type: "they can do this". > Move the cursor to just in front of word "do". > Type "really" followed by a space. 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