Hi richard, I guess afraid was not the proper word to use. I just recall that during the first year or two when this feature was first available, a lot of blind people, including me at the start, had decided that there was just no way was going to work for us and so we would not even try. But I have found that it really does work fine. That was all. I’m sure my eyes look close a lot. I’ve been told that by sighted people, I’ve never had site etc. So I’m nothing special when it comes to iContact or looking at the right place or any of that nonsense. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > Mary, > I am not afraid of any feature of an electronic device. > I simply found that it wasn't necessary and for many clients when I was > working, they struggled with Face ID much more until that was turned off. > So, I still wouldn't recommend it. > And now, Apple gives you the option to turn it on if you want, rather than > sticking you with it and having to turn it off if you don't like it. > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > > (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro) > >>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> Hi richard, >> I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And >> I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have >> never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with >> attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these >> is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of >> the attention mode if I were you. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday >>> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra >>> Blue, 256GB. >>> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a >>> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) >>> >>> Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my >>> package would be delivered today, not Monday. >>> >>> We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless >>> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… >>> You know what happens when you assume?... >>> >>> After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. >>> I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with >>> us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had >>> us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the >>> process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from >>> scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. >>> >>> I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It >>> is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. >>> >>> I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The >>> case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate >>> holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges >>> at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice >>> angle in landscape mode. >>> >>> I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. >>> >>> The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this >>> quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, >>> sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo >>> separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. >>> Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE >>> first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about >>> on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second >>> generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer >>> than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. >>> I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite >>> impressed. >>> >>> Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup >>> with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know >>> that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can >>> turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific >>> focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It >>> makes unlocking the phone quite fast. >>> >>> I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair >>> amount. >>> >>> My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the >>> 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from >>> the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and >>> I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted >>> to make sure. >>> I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, >>> etc. >>> >>> I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used >>> to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. >>> >>> I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. >>> One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere >>> on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person >>> without a mask.” >>> I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I >>> don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or >>> any other LIDAR feature. >>> >>> I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into again, >>> but so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need or want >>> another phone for several years. >>> >>> Now, if you don’t know about Virginia, read the article at Wikipedia: Yes, >>> Virginia, there is a Santa Claus - Wikipedia >>> >>> Richard >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>> it.” – Jane Wagner >>> >>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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