Hi Donna,
It turns out that the SE 2020 with iOS 15 does have screen recognition. I actually ended up using it to get my speech back on in the game after I had stupidly turned it off. That was interesting! However, after that I turned off the clicks, and the game really became unplayable. Everything I double tapped wouldn’t activate. In the end I did have to delete the app and download it again. Take care and stay safe! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 9:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words Janet, If Direct Touch is not on when playing 7 Little Words the game will not work at all. No, an iPhone Se 20 does not have screen recognition, which in this case is a good thing, being having screen recognition on would make the game unplayable. I can't recall- Did I send you a list of gestures used to play 7 Little words? If not, let me know & I'll send them to you. It may be best to delete the game & redownload so that the proper settings are in place when you open the app. Donna Hi Donna, would an SE20 have voice recognition on it as I can't find it anywhere. I did as you suggested and still can't get rid of direct touch but there you go. Janet On 26/09/2021 18:07, Donna Casteen wrote: Hi, Assuming that Direct Touch is still on per my previous instructions: Close 7 Little Words from the app switcher, then reopen it. Voiceover should now be back on. Use one finger & swipe down to settings & tap to open. Swipe down to sound & use one finger & double tap to turn off the sounds. Make sure that you are using three fingers & taping only once. Wait a couple seconds between taps to toggle between words or characters. Without waiting the tap may be confused with the three finger double tap which toggles voiceover speech on & off. Donna Hi Donna, I am wondering what phone and which iOS version you are using. I really liked your solution for when someone accidentally turned off speech in 7 Little Words, however, on my iPhone SE 202 running iOS 14.8 and 15 it didn’t work. I was sillily adventurous, and I turned off speech in the game. Then I went to the app switcher, and while on 7 Little Words I turned the rotor to “direct touch” and turned it on. It didn’t restore speech to the game. Unless there is something I did wrong, I will have to delete the app and download it again. I did have the most recent update working, and I am getting used to it. However, I sure wish you could turn off the infernal clicking. Right now that toggle still isn’t working. I am going to write to the developer about that. Thanks for your help! Take care and stay safe! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words so where do you find screen recognition please and also I wish he would get rid of direct touch area forever Janet On 25/09/2021 17:54, CHELA Robles wrote: Well I just took the plunge and downloaded it for the very first time I will have to learn how to play this it sounds fun similar to scrabble Innoway it looks like and boy it’s been quite sometime since I’ve played Scrabble myself but thanks for introducing this game. I downloaded the trumpets pack since I myself am a trumpet player. You know the other game I like is I associate II. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net> <wadres...@att.net> wrote: Hi everyone, I actually got it to work! There was an update last night, but it still didn't work well, so I reinstalled it. I continued to have problems and discovered that Screen Recognition was on. Once I turned that off, it worked pretty well. I even got braille output! It puts out the braille as alert messages, so I set the Braille alert Message time to 3 seconds. I can't use the display to control the game, but I can flick with one hand and read with my other hand on the display. The word eye is displayed when the letter i is spoken in a clue, but otherwise, it seems to work. It's pretty responsive, and I like being able to do a single finger flick up or down to move between the sections of the game. I'm so happy that this is playable again! Best, Anna On Sep 25, 2021, at 4:12 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com <mailto:tagli...@gmail.com> > wrote: I will let you know. Janet On 25/09/2021 09:27, CJ & AA MAY wrote: I’m giving up on it and have deleted the app. It is such a shame as it kept me sane during lockdown but I am just finding it too fiddly and frustrating to use as it is now. If it reverts to being more useable, please let us know and I’ll reload it. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Debby Sent: 22 September 2021 14:09 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: new Seven Little Words Hi Janet, Yes, a sighted person would need to go to setting, and check the box for text to speech. By the way, two friends and I did the same thing Because we didn’t have working eyes available, we completely deleted the app from our phones and then downloaded it again. That brought speech back. If you have purchased any puzzle packs you will need to restore those purchases. Take care and stay Safe! Debby From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words thanks Alison I am not sure when someone will be here it may be Sunday can you tell me what I ask them to do? is it just to put the text to speech back on? Janet On 22/09/2021 10:44, Alison May wrote: Be my guest, Janet (smile!) But I know how frustrating it is when you don't have a pair of eyes to hand to help with the things that you just can't do yourself. He does have his uses! Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 On 22 Sep 2021, at 10:40 am, Janet Bell <mailto:tagli...@gmail.com> <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: HI Alison please may I borrow your husband as I haven't got one of my own Janet On 22/09/2021 10:28, Alison May wrote: I did exactly the same but needed sighted assistance to undo my mistake. Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 On 22 Sep 2021, at 9:24 am, Janet Bell <mailto:tagli...@gmail.com> <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote: finally caught up with the update of 7 lettle words but I accidentally switched off text to speech so have no feedback whatsoever. is there a way to get some speech back please? Janet On 20/09/2021 19:36, Debby wrote: Hi Alison, Yes indeed this is definitely an update that broke things. I wrote to Blue Ox Family Games, the developer of 7 Little words, and below is the response I received: Hi Debby, The latest version of 7 Little Words does use a slightly different version of Voice Over which allows us to extend this game across both the iOS and Android platforms. As such, there are some modifications and we realize we have done a poor job of communicating them and are rushing a build out to remedy this. First off, here are the touch commands for navigating the game board for each puzzle: * swipe right and left to advance through the screen elements as before, but now you can swipe down and up to jump between the major screen sections (back button, clues, answer/spelling, tiles) * use a two finger tap to switch between reading by word or letter and two finger swipe to advance through each clue * when you select a tile as part of an answer, you remain in the tile section, which should reduce the number of swipes you need To note, the two-finger tap to switch the reading by word or letter will be switched to a three-finger tap in the next build as it sometimes caused confusion with the two-finger swipe. We have hired a blind accessibility contractor to help us make it as accessible as possible but we greatly appreciate your feedback on how we can do this better. Your feedback on the click noise for each move is something I will get addressed in a forthcoming build, so that if you decide to turn off the "sound effects" in the game, it will turn off this clicking sound as you swipe through the board. Please let us know if this is helpful and again appreciate any additional feedback you might have. Eric From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: new Seven Little Words I have always enjoyed this word puzzled game on my iPhone but the recent changes are really making it frustrating to play. The enhancements make it much slower and it also seems to jump about. Is anyone else having better luck than me? Alison difficut -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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