I am not sure why Joshua seems to set against using Face Id which makes it so 
easy to unlock the pho ne. That would be the same as me saying that I decided 
to upgrade from my iPhone 11 to the newly released iPhone SE and to say that I 
won't use Touch Id. Joshua, I can safely say that you will get tired very 
quickly to type in a PIN each time you want to unlock your phone. I always feel 
that way when I have to unlock my iPhone 11 with the PIN when I am wearing a 
face mask. Usually I have my Apple Watch on my wrist and I set u p my iPhone to 
use my Apple Watch for authentication so it is not so bad, but my wife and I 
are currently in the Philippines and we decided not to bring our watches 
because walking around with those on the wrist here may not always be the 
safest thing and I'm always annoyed when I want to unlock the phone and it 
doesn't work, then I remember that I don't have my watch. Back home in British 
Columbia we now don't have to wear masks any more in most situations other than 
flying and so on, but here in the Philippines you have to wear a mask more or 
less everywhere even in public outdoor settings and of course people here do it 
because the government is not as wimpy about enforcing it as they are back 
home. And before somebody who didn't pay attention recommends that I can now 
set up for my phone to unlock with a mask on if I installed the 15.4 update 
which I did yesterday, that only works if you have an iPhone 12 or above so 
with my 11 and my wife's 11 Pro apparently the hardware is not able to support 
this.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: March 12, 2022 12:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.

You should give face id a chance.  Don't knock it before you try it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.

When I get a new iPhone, I won't use face ID, but my passcode.

On 3/11/22, Anthony Vece <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’m glad!
> We are all here to help each other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Alan, and every one else,
>> Yes, the attention switch is off.
>> The more I use the iPhone, the better the face ID is working. I have 
>> been able to open the iPhone in the dark!
>> Thanks to every one for their advice,
>>
>> Chuck  (mobile)
>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>
>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>
>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Go to Settings, Face ID and passcode, enter your passcode, swipe to 
>>> require attention for face ID and make sure it’s turned off. This 
>>> should have been off by default if you initially set up your iPhone
>>> 13 Mini with Voiceover running. I haven’t heard that this setting 
>>> affects face ID recognition in the dark but it certainly makes face 
>>> ID much easier for the visually impaired.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:06 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Well I don’t know what’s wrong with mine, but I tried it probably at 
>>> least three dozen times last night and I didn’t work at all. Maybe I 
>>> need to rescan my face
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Anthony Vece <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck;
>>>
>>> That is absolutely not true.
>>> I have used Face ID in a totally dark room and, it works just fine.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> No, I think that is supposed to come in the next iOS update.
>>> I also discovered last night that facial recognition does not work 
>>> when it’s dark in the room.
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 11:49 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can 13 mini recognise you while wearing the face mask?
>>>
>>> On 3/11/22, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s great. I hope you enjoy your new 13 Mini as much as I’ve 
>>> enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Chuck Dean
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have helped.
>>>
>>> I picked up my new blue iPhone 13 Mini and it is up and running 
>>> perfectly!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck  (mobile)
>>>
>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.cadean.com/> Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html> Our 1961 Vespa 400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Carolyn <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Well, last night, I typed a text and sent it to my pastor, who has 
>>> an Android phone. I never saw where it was delivered, and Sent was dimmed.
>>> If
>>> he hadn't responded, Thank you, I'd have not bee sure he got it. I 
>>> do not have an attached keyboard of any kine, typed from the phone, 
>>> but was so uncertain about the message. I guess it only says 
>>> delivered, when it goes to another iPhone?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 6:28 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Carolyn, I think you’re a lot more tech savvy than you might think.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on 
>>> behalf of Carolyn <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 11:26:05 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
>>> Subject: RE: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> If I can set up facial ID, I think most people can. I am well up in 
>>> my years, totally blind, and not especially tech savvy.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2022 3:20 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>
>>> I strongly encourage you to set up face ID on your new iPhone. Touch 
>>> ID is not available on iPhone swithout home buttons and having used 
>>> phones with both types of biometric identification, face ID works 
>>> much better than touch ID.
>>> Good luck with your new iPhone and I hope FlickType Classic is 
>>> working well on it.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Mar 9, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Chuck Dean <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>       New iPhone without tactile home button.
>>>       Hello everyone, I am wondering about using apple pay on a 
>>> newer iPhone without a tactile home button. Is there a specific 
>>> place for scanning the fingerprint?
>>>       I understand these iPhone's have face recognition but I prefer 
>>> to use a fingerprint, if possible.
>>>       Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>       Chuck  (mobile)
>>>       Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>>>
>>>
>>>       Our 1972 Honda 600 Coupe <http://www.cadean.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>       Our 1961 Vespa 400 <http://cadean.com/Vespa.html>
>>>
>>>
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