We named our Roborock "Roxie" after the robot maid in the Jetson's. Now we have voice commands like "Go home Roxie." And "Where are you Roxie?"
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 5:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Roomba I had a friend with a good sense of humor, who had a Rumba; she named it Murphy (Murphy's law). When she was moving the housekeeper started Murphy and was mopping, had the front door open, and out Murphy went. They grabbed it, got it back in. I said Murphy was running away from home, LOL. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Roomba HI all jumping in on this topic. I am wondering if the roborock only says this once? Or does it continu to say I am over hear until you find it? Also about the rumba I am wondering what kind of accessible vacume you would recoment to some one who has tial flors and lenoliem and dog hair. There are no carpits in my place except for down at the boddem of the stairs. That is another thing I am wondering if there are any vacumes that will do stairs? Or If you would need to block off the stairs so that it doesn't go down them and brake? I live alone and I have a dog who does shed so dog hair is a consurne as well as trying to find something that works well with voice over as far as a app that I can set up with out sighted help. As well as I am wondering about priceing for these things? Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New lIskeard Ontario Canada.-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: July 17, 2022 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Roomba The Roborock has a Siri command where you can ask the Roborock where it is, and it'll announce "I'm over here." It would be nice if it beeped until you found it, but it works. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 6:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Roomba Will it make a sound so you can locate it if it stops somewhere other than the docking station?? At 09:58 PM 7/16/2022, you wrote: >We bought it from Amazon as part of Amazon Prime Days. > >I'd say Mike's review was spot on. My sighted wife and I set it up >together, but based on what I could see, I could have done the setup >completely by myself, except for maybe finding the wi-fi button on the >Roborock. Except for identifying the rooms on the map, the app seems >completely accessible. Looks like once we identify the rooms, I'll be >able to send it to a specific room to clean with the app or a voice >command. I set up the Siri shortcuts, so just with voice commands I can >start it cleaning, pause it, send it back to it's docking station and >change the strength of the suction. > >We've only run it through the house once, but it sucked up quite a bit >of dog and cat hair. It was pretty cool to see it navigate each room. >Now that it's been through the house once, I wonder if it'll be quicker >the next time, although except for the dining room with all of it's >chairs, it seemed to be pretty quick and smart. I'm looking forward to >having it stay on top of the pet hair throughout the week, especially >under the bed. I'm also hoping it'll help my wife with her allergies. > >-- >Christopher (AKA CJ) >Chaltain at Outlook > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >Kay Malmquist >Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:23 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Roomba > >I will be interested in what you think. I also saw Mike's review and >thought seriously about buying the Roborock. Do you have any >recommendations as to the best place to buy one? Years ago, I had two >Roomba's, one for downstairs and one for up. I liked them and miss >them for the in-between vacuum jobs they did. > >Kay Malmquist >[email protected] > >Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of >its strength. >Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 5:35 PM >Subject: RE: Roomba > > >A few weeks ago Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> posted the following >review of several robot vacuum cleaners. I used this myself, and just a >few minutes ago, we let our Roborock start it's maiden voyage around our house. > >I remember a while back there was some discussion about the >accessibility of apps that are used to control robot vacuums. I now >have a small robot vacuum collection and have tried each brand's app so >I have an idea about which apps work the best with Voiceover. Some are >definitely better than others. >I'm going to group these in to three categories, accessible or mostly >accessible, that is, everything is well labeled or at least easy to use >with Voiceover's recognition abilities, useable but not the most >accessible, meaning you can use the app but some of the controls are >not labeled and you will have to memorize the order of where they are >on the screen, and mostly unuseable, that is, you will need sighted >help to do at least some things in the app since they are impossible to >do using voiceover. One other thing to note, many robots will map your >house and let you define rooms or no go zones by drawing on the map. >Unfortunately there is no way to do that using Voiceover with any of >these apps and I'm not even sure how that could be made accessible >since it involves drawing, so your choices are to get sighted help if >you want to use those features or just let the robot clean the entire place >each time which is what I do. >Ok, let's start with the most accessible category, these are in no >particular order. >The Irobot home app is used for the Roomba robots and works very well >with Voiceover. For the most part, everything is well labeled, there >are a few places where voiceover has to guess at what a control is but >it does describe those controls well. I had no problems setting up my >Roomba J7 Plus totally without sighted help. This app is very >interactive which I like, at times it will display tips and tricks or >ask you how the robot did on its last run and this is all completely >accessible. If you decide you want to get a Roomba you will have no trouble at >all using the app. >Next up is the Roborock app. As a side note, I think Roborock is one of >the best, if not the best brand of robot vacuums available, their >cleaning and navigation is excellent. I discovered something with this >app, I actually have two different Roborock models and the controls >read slightly differently depending on which robot you choose to >control from the home screen. This makes me wonder if the app is >actually downloading this content from the robot itself. Either way, >the app is very easy to use and navigate with voiceover. So, depending >on which Roborock model you choose to get, things may read slightly >different. For example, when I open the entry for the Roborock S4 Max >and come to the settings option, Voiceover says "settings." On the >other hand, when I choose the Roborock S7 Max V, which is Roborock's >current top of the line model and one that I would absolutely >recommend, the settings option says "possibly games, more." Once you >know that this opens the settings screen for the robot it works fine. >One other minor quirk about how the app reads, while in the settings >screen, if you turn a setting off, Voiceover says "off," but when you >enable a feature, rather than saying "on," Voiceover says "Open." Changing the >cleaning settings such as the suction power and mop intensity works fine. >On both the Irobot and Roborock apps, reading the battery level and >robot status works fine. The Irobot app will indicate if the battery is >high, medium or low, where as the Roborock app indicates the battery >level as a percentage. >The next app I will mention is the Eufy Home app. Eufy is a brand made >by Anker which is known for their power banks and battery chargers. >Eufy makes a line of robot vacuums called Robovac. Again, this app >works well with Voiceover. Getting my Robovac X8 connected to my >network worked fine and the controls for starting and stopping the >robot, as well as changing the suction power are completely accessible. >I prefer to run my robots on maximum power, I figure if the robot has >the power available, why not use it for a better clean? One minor quirk >about this app, there is no way that I know of to read the battery >level, you can tell if the robot is charging or fully charged but that's all. >Now we will move on to the second category. I currently only have one >app in this category, the app is useable but not as easy to use since >many of the buttons are unlabeled. The Trifo app fits this category. I >have the Trifo Lucy pet edition robot and this app is used to control >it. This app uses a different method to set up the network connection. >With most other robots, you enter your WI-FI network name and password >in to the app and then you connect your phone to a temporary network >that the robot creates and the app uses this to transfer the network >information to it. With the Trifo robots, you enter the network >information and the app creates a QR code that is displayed on your >phone's screen. You hold your phone's screen in front of the robot and >the robot's camera reads the QR code. I was able to get this to work >without sighted help but I had to turn off the screen curtain feature >of Voiceover. This app has a lot of buttons that are unlabeled so >Voiceover just says "button." The most important buttons, the start and >stop cleaning button and the button to return to the dock are unlabeled >as well as the buttons for map management and the button to change the >suction setting. I was able to figure out what each button does after >some experimentation but I definitely want to contact Trifo about this >and hopefully they will label these buttons appropriately. Changing the >suction to maximum works fine once you get to the right screen, it's a >percentage slider and I set mine to 100 percent for the highest setting. >Ok, now on to the remaining two apps that I have tried, I had to get >sighted help at different points in order to get these apps to work. >Let's start with the MII home app, this app is used to control several >different robots made by Dreametech and a few other brands. I have the >Dreametech L10 pro, creating an account and connecting the robot to my >network worked fine so again, I'm wondering if the app is downloading >the screens that are displayed from the robot itself once it's >connected, regardless it ends up the same. It's possible to get in to >the settings screen but when toggling options, it reads very strangely. >The check box that you need to double tap on to toggle each option is >after the option description and when you enable it, voiceover doesn't >say anything, when you disable it, voiceover says "plate." I had to get >sighted help to figure this out and I also needed sighted help to set >the suction power to maximum, you can get in to the cleaning settings >screen but Voiceover does not see the control for changing the suction >power at all, apparently it's a circle with each setting shown as a >larger fan, totally nonstandard. Once everything is set, you can read >the battery level and start and stop cleaning but even with this >control you can tell that Voiceover is guessing at what it is, it's not >labeled. When swiping through the screen, sometimes Voiceover does not >say anything. For these reasons I am considering this robot to be one of the >least accessible when using Voiceover though it does clean well. >The last app I will talk about is the Neabot app used to control the >Neabot Q11, again a very good robot as far as cleaning goes, but this >is the least accessible robot vacuum app I have used. I had to get >sighted help several times. First, creating an account is not possible >without sighted help because there is no way to access the Register" >item. Voiceover says "don't have an account yet? Register" and it sees >that as one item when it should be two items. Double tapping does not >work so you have to get sighted help to tap on "register" with >Voiceover turned off. After that creating the account works fine and >connecting the robot to the network can be done without sighted help >but once that is done, you really start to see the accessibility >issues. You can read the battery level and the "Start cleaning" option >works fine, but everything else is either completely unlabeled or even >when Voiceover tries to guess what something is, the descriptions are >not very helpful. With lots of patience you can get in to the main >robot settings screen which is where the firmware update option is, and >this also has problems. When there is a firmware update, Voiceover sees >the text describing the update, the cancel, and the update options all >as one item, this should be three. I was able to update the firmware by >turning Voiceover off and tapping towards the bottom right of the >screen but I think I was just lucky enough to tap in the right place. >Also, setting the suction to maximum required sighted help, Voiceover >does not see the control for changing the suction power at all. I have >contacted Neabot about these issues and never got a response. >So to finish this review, at this time the most accessible robot vacuum >apps I have tried are from Irobot, Roborock and Eufy. All of these >brands are good but Roborock is my favorite because of its excellent >cleaning and navigation. > >-- >Christopher (AKA CJ) >Chaltain at Outlook > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 2:53 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Roomba > >Yep >iPhone app is accessible and it can be controlled by Google home or Alexa. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >Mary Anne Lynskey >Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 1:02 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Roomba > >Good afternoon everyone. I am curious. Have any of you experience using >a Roomba? I recently ordered one from Amazon which has not arrived yet. >I am wondering if this is a viable option for someone who is totally >blind. How accessible is the app and how difficult is it to set up the app and >use it. >I know it can be controlled via the a lady. 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