Oh Richard I’m so jealous of you and all of you who on later models. I have the 
iPhone 8 plus. I’ve had it since 2018 and the first time I had to have a 
replacement iPhone 8 Plus was this year in January. The reason was because the 
battery was significantly degraded like it does over time of use. since it was 
under warranty, they were able to find a replacement iPhone 8 Plus for me. It 
was what my father could afford. now that I know that the Lions vision resource 
network has grants every year, maybe next time, I can apply to get the later 
iPhone. I already applied to get a braille display.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’d bet that since you’re using a 13 Pro, you’re also getting the advantage 
> of LiDAR.
>  
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> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app
>  
> I had not messed with this for identifying things for a while.
> So, I open the camera, double tapped on view finder.
> I pointed the camera in front of myself, and it was talking about a person 
> standing in front of a fireplace in a room.
> I mentioned that to my sighted wife and she said, yes, it's Tom.
> There is a piccture of my late brother in a nice shadow box on our mantle.
> It is appoximately 12 feet from me. The picture is a 4 by 6 photo.
> The picture is indeed of him standing in front of their fireplace.
>  
>  
> That is better than any of the apps I've tried.
> There are no overhead lights on at the moment.
> I scanned around the room and it did a good job of identifying chairs, 
> tables, TV, etc.
> This is the 13 pro.
> I'm impressed.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> This really sounds cool, but I'm having a hard time getting it to work.  I 
> flick to view finder and it occasionally will say what is near, but, for 
> example, if I hold a dollar bill up it may say "currency" after a bit.   As I 
> walk around the room it may say "curtain and glass door"  but I can't figure 
> out how to hold or point it to make it more consistent.  Any thoughts.
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Playing with the camera app
> 
> You open the camera app and then you move VoiceOver focus to the view finder, 
> which is at the top of the screen. As long as the view finder has VoiceOver's 
> focus, you'll hear descriptions of whatever's in the view finder, such as 
> object recognition, text and apparently currency identification as well. 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Playing with the camera app
> 
> So, do you just open Camera? Then what, to read a bill? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Playing with the camera app
> 
> Wow cool! I love the Microsoft Seeing AI app, but the cool thing about the 
> Camera app is that it does all of this without having to switch between 
> channels!
> 
> 
> 
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> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> 
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Playing with the camera app
> 
> 
> 
> Chris, The camera can also identify U.S paper currency, just point the camera 
> at the paper bill. Have no idea if it can identify any other countr's paper 
> currency.
> 
> 
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>     
> 
>     
> 
>    This is probably old news to everyone, but I just stumbled across 
> something, and I’m so excited, I want to share. This is how clueless I am, 
> but I was looking for a screen recording I’d just done, and not knowing where 
> else to look, I brought up the camera app. While I was exploring the camera 
> app, I heard it announcing things like no people, keyboard, … I realized it 
> was telling me what was on my desk! After playing around, I found out that if 
> you move focus to the top to the view finder, the camera app will read text 
> to you and identify objects. I ran downstairs to show my wife, and I heard it 
> say “cat on a flat surface with a laptop and a glass with a beverage”. I was 
> pointing it at my kitchen table which had our cat on it, waiting to be fed, 
> my wife’s laptop and her glass of sparkling water! It’s not going to replace 
> the Seeing AI app for me yet, but it seemed awfully fast and accurate!
> 
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