So, with it downloaded on the iPhone, you can't say, Alexa, how far is it from 
here to there? 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 12:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity 
Check-in

If you want to use Alexa frequently I suggest you go ahead and buy an Echo 
smart speaker. They are very inexpensive and will always be available when you 
say "Alexa" where is if you use Alexa on an iPhone you do still have to first 
open the Amazon Echo app. You can probably find plenty of 2nd or 3rd generation 
Echo Dot speaker for $10 or $20, I have a few of them and even the older larger 
ones which I really have to advertise and get rid of because we have Sonos 
throughout the house and while you still can't use the Intercom feature via a 
Sonos speaker, you can do anything else. For the living room we bought an Echo 
Show because we also have a Ring doorbell so all these 2nd and 3rd Echo 
speakers I have are just sitting in a box and I am sure that is true for many 
people.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity 
Check-in

That is good news, sounds like the way to go, download Alexa, which I'll do, 
when we get moved. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 4:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity 
Check-in

Lisa, This is not true. The Amazon Alexa app can do Everything that an Alexa 
device can do. I have an old iPhone, which has no cellular service. The phone 
is connected to wifi only. I/we use the app ONLY to control smart lights & our 
Ring security camera. The Only thing that I do Not use the app for is adding 
items into my shopping cart & placing orders. I even make wifi calls using the 
app. A stand alone Amazon Alexa device is not necessary.

Donna 
> 
> Hi, Carolyn.
> 
> 
> If you just want to order and browse Amazon the app is fine.  If you want to 
> use smart lights and switches and such, you'll need Alexa.
> 
> 
> Hope this clears things up.
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> [email protected]
> 
>> On 8/9/2022 8:40 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
>> Knowing these things, I see no advantage to getting Alexa. Please correct 
>> me, any of you, if this is incorrect.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:11 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>> 
>> I don't use any kind of smart lights, but I'm sure that will work with the 
>> iPhone.  Good luck.
>> 
>>> On 8/8/22, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> That sounds great then, Joshua. I assume that the iPhone can work 
>>> with smart light switches?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 4:37 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>> 
>>> I have the amazon shopping app on my iPhone.  You don't need the 
>>> Alexa app to do that.
>>> 
>>> On 8/8/22, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure what you're asking, but you can use the Amazon app on 
>>>> your iPhone to place orders with Amazon. I'd also assume you could 
>>>> use the Alexa app on your iPhone to also place an Amazon order.
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:01 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>> 
>>>> Can you do Amazon ordering with the iPhone without Alexa?
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:30 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>> 
>>>> You can order with the app, but be very careful that it is adding 
>>>> the correct item to your cart.
>>>> Also, be careful when using your phone with the app listening or a 
>>>> device listening, because if it hears your phone say something 
>>>> like, I can add the roborock vacuum to your cart; you may find that 
>>>> item is now in your cart.
>>>> It took a bit of work to get it out of the cart.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom 
>>>> of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>>>> 
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:27 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>> 
>>>> Carolyn, I haven't tried ordering from the app or adding items to 
>>>> my cart. I do use the Alexa app to play games, play my music 
>>>> playlist, search answers to questions, get the current/daily weather 
>>>> forecast etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> That is great. I understand I can order with amazon?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:21 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carolyn, You can download the Amazon Alexa app from the app store 
>>>>> & use it like someone who has an Amazon Alexa device.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark, how do you download Alexa? I guess you have to buy it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 3:36 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple 
>>>>>> Accessibility Gravity Check-in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just wanted to check in with everyone and wish you all a happy 
>>>>>> Apple accessibility summer.  I cannot believe that August 2022 is 
>>>>>> already underway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You know, it's kind of funny, I use my Apple devices more and 
>>>>>> more and yet I have less and less to say about them as they 
>>>>>> continue to get better and better.  (smile)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A few things that I have been intending to post but have not:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> In addition to my wired EarPods, I now use both AirPods, third 
>>>>>> gen, and Airpods Pro, on a regular basis.  While I would have to 
>>>>>> say that my Airpods Pro offer better sound quality, I like the 
>>>>>> Airpods third gen, because they offer an easier / lighter 
>>>>>> listening experience.  I know that sounds crazy but, for me, it is true.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> My poor old 8 Plus is truly on its last legs.  The lightening 
>>>>>> port can no longer hold a cable, unassisted.  This is to say, in 
>>>>>> order for me to keep a cable inserted, the phone must be on a 
>>>>>> horizontal plain or the cable will fall out.  I do use a wireless 
>>>>>> charger with it but .  I am going to try to make it last until 
>>>>>> the next iPhone release which, hopefully, will offer some form of touch 
>>>>>> ID.
>>>>>> However, If touch ID is not included in the next release I will 
>>>>>> either purchase the biggest best new phone or I will get an S E.
>>>>>> One way or another, my beloved 8 Plus is on its way out
>>>>>> (smile.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> My iPad 10.5 2017 is going strong; it runs like a champ. However, 
>>>>>> I am definitely going to get a new MacBook Pro after I purchase 
>>>>>> my next iPhone.
>>>>>> I have a MacBook Air, M1, in the house but I really don't like 
>>>>>> the fact that it automatically powers on at the touch of any key.
>>>>>> This is quite annoying.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>> As for software?  I find that I am using fewer and fewer apps.  I 
>>>>>> am not sure why.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All of the apps that allow me to easily manage my finances 
>>>>>> continue to be my favorite apps, of course.  However the Amazon 
>>>>>> apps continue to be at the top of my must have list.  I noticed 
>>>>>> some kind of a glitch between VoiceOver and Alexa on an iPhone 11, the 
>>>>>> other day.
>>>>>> Interesting as this glitch does not occur on my beloved 8 Plus.  
>>>>>> My solution?  Delete and then reinstall the Alexa app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pill Reminder, My Chart, CA Lottery, and Yelp also head-up my 
>>>>>> favorite apps list, these days.  Of course, I am omitting all of 
>>>>>> the native Apple apps as their significance to my accessible life 
>>>>>> is unparalleled
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While I continue to be a big fan of Twitter, for some reason, the 
>>>>>> app, and the service itself, for that matter, feel less 
>>>>>> streamline and unencumbered, these days.  Just my opinion, of course.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Uber, Lift, and Insta Cart are amazing, as always.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And of course, all of the book reading apps remain dear to my heart.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While I would love to list some games that I enjoy on either iOS 
>>>>>> or iPad OS, alas, I cannot.  I do not know of any onboard (not 
>>>>>> requiring an internet
>>>>>> connection) VoiceOver accessible card games and / or board games; 
>>>>>> a sad reality, to be sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All replies to this post are welcome and, in fact, greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope this finds you all happy and well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
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