Hi Richard, Well, one of the differences between the iPhone 14 Pro and the pro max is video playback. One reports 23 hours and the max is supposed to provide 29 hours. Really, I just don’t think that’s worth it. I do mostly audio, so I would assume that number would go up if I’m not doing that much with video playback.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > Mitch, > Good Friday is April 7, 2023. Or did you mean Black Friday, the day after US > Thanksgiving for the pre-Christmas sales? That is November 25th. > > I am with Sieghard, unless you have a good reason for the larger > phone/battery life, or enough vision to take advantage of the larger screen, > the Pro size would be more affordable and get pretty much the same > performance other than maybe a little less battery life; but they are talking > all day battery life with either pro or pro max, so the suggestion of a > battery pack is a good one. > > I think you said you have an 8 now, so any of the 14's will be a huge > improvement. > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought > which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > 🦅 > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > Just curious, why a 13 Pro Max rather than just a regular 13 Pro? I can see > the Pro Max being a good thing if you are doing a lot of braille input or if > you are out and about a lot and want absolutely the most battery life. I much > prefer the slightly smaller phone, it costs a couple of hundred less here in > Canada and if battery life is really a concern then you can get one of these > Anker MagGo external batteries for $50 or $60 and that would even beat the > battery life of a Pro max at a lot less cost.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > mi...@eastlink.ca > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:34 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > I am going to upgrade to a I phone 13 max if I can but am also going to wate > when is good Friday again? Since if there is a good sale on one then I will > try then. I am shure that the prices of those older phones will go down as > well. Btw I am one of those with a 8. From Mich. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: September 11, 2022 1:28 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not > forget there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR > and if they wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting > old then any iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted > people who drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good > motivation, then there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera > on the 14/14 Plus and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the > emergency SOS via satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot > could offer some peace of mind. > And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a > good deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going > to wait for that. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis > Long > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing. Hopefully they > will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than > I might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I > think a lot of people won't upgrade. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR. > You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from > an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14. > I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the > regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from > last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now > has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one > good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a > good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it. > I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, > recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be > able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 > Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into > good photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really > want to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various > apps which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for > the 14 Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or > 13 Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well. > > I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have > upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I > would have to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. > This means that over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to > keep the phone I'd have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay > $1,280. I can go to the Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in > Canada for $1,399 so I guess doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or > $120, but not a huge difference. AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give > me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb which is laughable because I know I could > easily get $500 for it if I put it up for sale now privately. > So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 > Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon > find stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black > Friday is only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get > an iPhone 14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a > slight bump or pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its > charging position on the wireless charging pad and you can get external > batteries like that new Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it > snaps onto the back of the phone without covering the camera opening, but > I'll just wait a bit longer. Once the new phones are regularly available they > may even be sold by my credit card rewards program and I have plenty of > points and if not then I know for sure they have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy > gift cards which I could order and then use to buy one. I know for sure that > if I had a MagSafe capable phone like a 12 or 13 series phone I'd have 0 > incentive to get a 14. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro max models. > > One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised they didn't mention > anything about it especially with the door detection feature that is > apparently coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's presentation was > focused on hardware, not software. > > > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought > which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > 🦅 > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris > Ali > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 8:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? > > the subject heading says it all. I did not hear any mention of Lidar in > apple’s presentation on wednesday. I have Xr, and the only insentive for me > to upgrade would be Lidar. Does anyone know? > Cheers > > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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