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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 9:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor? Thanks a bundle Richard. I guess I will just go ahead and order the 14 Pro. Cheers, Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Here is an article from How To Geek prior to the release of the iPhone 12 > Pro and Pro max, the first models to have LIDAR. > > What Is LiDAR? > A LiDAR scanner determines the distance between itself and an object by > monitoring how long it takes a pulse of light (often a laser) to bounce back. > It’s like radar, except instead of radio waves, it uses infrared light. > > While radar is designed to be used across great distances, LiDAR works on a > smaller scale, due to the way light is absorbed by objects in its path. By > sending hundreds of thousands of light pulses every second, LiDAR scanners > can work out distances and object sizes with relative accuracy over small > distances. > > A living room with furniture outlined by dots, showing what the iPhone LIDAR > scanner sees. > > This data can then be used to construct 3D models, which is one of the main > uses for LiDAR in construction and engineering projects. You’ve likely heard > of 3D laser scans being used to draw up building plans—that’s LiDAR. > > LiDAR actually has many uses across many industries. Archaeologists use it to > prepare dig sites and autonomous vehicles rely on it to construct real-time > 3D maps of their surroundings. LiDAR has even been used to create highly > realistic and accurate maps of race tracks in video games, like Project CARS. > Police speed guns also use LiDAR. > > And now, just like the iPad Pro in March 2020, a LiDAR scanner has come to > Apple’s premium iPhone 12 Pro. > > How the iPhone 12 Pro Uses LiDAR > Apple uses LiDAR a bit differently than a construction site or speed gun. > It’s the same basic principle—bouncing light to determine distance—but on a > smaller scale. The LiDAR scanner in the iPhone 12 Pro (and iPad Pro) has an > effective range of around 16 feet (5 meters). > > The primary purpose of LiDAR in the iPhone is to improve augmented reality > (AR) implementation. It will give apps more useful and accurate information > about their surroundings, for smoother, more reliable AR. > > If you’re unfamiliar with the technology, AR allows developers to fuse > virtual objects and the real world. It uses your device’s camera and allows > you to play games, apply interactive filters (like those on Snapchat), or > preview the placement of furniture and other objects. > > Pokémon Go is one example of a successful AR game that allows you to capture > virtual creatures in the real world. With Ikea’s wildly successful Place app, > you can see how most of the company’s catalog would look in your home. > > LEGO is one of many companies that has also launched stand-alone products (in > this case, building sets) that can “come alive” via AR features when you have > a compatible smartphone. > > While LiDAR is often used to scan buildings and other objects, the scanner on > the iPhone 12 Pro and iPad Pro isn’t accurate enough to scan objects > precisely. Sebastiaan de With, who developed the popular iPhone camera app > Halide, discovered this while building a proof of concept called Esper. > > “Unfortunately, the mesh output by the system right now isn’t accurate enough > to send to a 3D printer,” de With wrote on the Halide website. “But it’s a > great starting point for a 3D model, since all the proportions will be very > accurate.” > > In reality, LiDAR scanners are likely to improve on two main things: virtual > object placement (like shopping apps) and AR gaming. These are already > possible on non-LiDAR iPhones, but it adds an extra layer of accuracy to > things like dimensions and the precise distance to an object in a room. > > You can also expect a more seamless AR experience, particularly when placing > virtual items in the real world. For example, the iPhone 12 Pro should be > better able to identify real-world items in the foreground. This should make > for more realistic interactions between virtual and real objects. > > Virtual toys, characters, and scenery in a living room AR Experience on iPad > Pro. > > Apple also intends to use LiDAR to improve camera performance in low light. > It’s implemented “focus pixels” in the iPhone XS, which is the company’s > brand of phase-detect autofocus (PDAF). This technology still depends on > light, which is why even the latest autofocus advancements don’t work all > that well in the dark. > > By sensing the distance between your iPhone and the subject you’re taking a > picture of, Apple can tell the camera at what distance it should focus to get > the best results. This should make it much easier to take better photos with > your iPhone in the dark, especially when combined with Night mode. > > Will LiDAR Become a Big Deal? > Presently, only two Apple devices have a sensor. Both are also priced at a > premium and feature the “Pro” moniker, so LiDAR is a niche feature for now. > However, that doesn’t mean software will be slow to catch on. Apple’s > exhaustive list of software development kits (SDKs) includes ARKit, which was > updated to version 4.0 in June 2020. > > This update rolled out new features that leverage LiDAR into ARKit, allowing > developers to take advantage of the iPad Pro and iPhone 12 Pro’s new sensor. > SDKs like this make it possible for developers to target whole families of > devices, even if they aren’t rocking the latest bells and whistles. > > Apple’s plan likely involves putting LiDAR sensors in more devices over time, > while developers are busy building apps that take advantage of the improved > performance. Considering the company’s renewed interest in the technology > over the last few software releases, Apple seems to be betting big on AR. > > Apple’s biggest plans for LiDAR, however, might go well beyond tablets and > smartphones. At least, that’s the opinion held by many analysts, as rumors > swell about the company’s rumored AR glasses. If such a project were to come > to fruition, it makes sense that accurate AR would be foundational to the > experience. > > By encouraging developers to embrace AR, Apple can accelerate app > availability on a new wearable platform. A slow rollout in a few high-end > models follows Apple’s trend with past iPhone features, including haptic > feedback, facial recognition, and multiple cameras. > > Integrating hardware that directly benefits AR into select devices also gives > the company the opportunity to fine-tune it before launching a product that > leans more heavily on the technology. > > > If you are still reading, that was a very long article, but tells you all you > want to know and more abut LIDAR from a sighted perspective. > The key thing is the newer apps and phones are working better with LIDAR. > Several apps for the blind are taking advantage of it like Seeing AI and as > noted, the new Door detection feature. > I think GoodMaps Explore is using it for their indoor navigation but I'm not > positive about that. It will do nothing but continue to get better. > > > > Richard > “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought > which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > 🦅 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor? > > And, what is it the LiDAR does? I know that Door Detector indicates door > location and describes environment to an extent, but what is it that LiDAR > does? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Cris Ali > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor? > > Hi listers, > I can imagine that the Lidar sensor on the iPhone has great accessibility > potentials. If there is any reason for me to have the urge to upgrade from XR > to 14 pro is to have lidar on my phone. For those of you who have phones with > lidar, how useful this has been so far? I am very curious. > I hope to hear your opinions on the subject. > Cheers > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected]. 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