I have tried numerous times to get the Alexa app on my phone to add apple music to my echo, but no go. It is very frustrating.
On 12/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > And as a last comment, having a connected receiver which has some > capabilities like Sonos and hooking up a Sonos Port to it is a bit like > having a smart TV and an Apple TV. > Especially if the receiver's app is accessible you may think you don't > really need a Port, but theoretically if you have an accessible smart TV > with Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Prime Video and even an app store where > you can get more stuff you don't really need an Apple TV. > However, you still may like or prefer an Apple TV because the accessibility > I think is probably still better than just about any smart TV and while I > don't know how fully accessible and awesome the Denon app for your receiver > is, the Sonos app is incredibly accessible and then there is of course the > benefit of integrating your existing setup into the Sonos system which I > explained in my previous email. Anybody who is serious about Sonos and is > building a multi-room or whole house system would want to do this unless of > course you for some reason want to add separate Sonos speakers in the same > room where your existing system is, but then that is silly since it will be > more expensive than a Sonos Port and I would assume you have your Denon > receiver with whatever speaker configuration because you really like it. > In my case my Sony receiver and the speakers I had on it were better than > most Sonos speakers, but I eventually opted to switch it for a Sonos Arc and > surround package simply because it also sounds great and it's just so much > more convenient and takes up so much less space since I had large speakers > before which were on a stand and took up a lot of room and there is of > course all the cables I needed. > As you can guess by now, I am a big Sonos fan, I bought my first Sonos gear > in 2009 and I loved it when Sonos was offering the 30% upgrade credit where > you can basically get a 30% discount on new Sonos gear if you decommission > any of the old gear you may have. In the very beginning you could get a > shipping label to send it back to Sonos since once you used the upgrade > credit, the speaker you used for that wouldn't work any more, but that has > changed and you can now use the upgrade credit and then still sell the old > speaker. The buyer can set it up and activate it on their account, the only > thing is that Sonos does keep track of serial numbers so a second person > could not use that same speaker again to get a discount. There are actually > people who very specifically look for very old Sonos gear on eBay which > hasn't been used to get an upgrade discount because you might be able to buy > a first generation Connect for $50 or $80, but if the upgrade credit > associated with it has not been used, you could buy a new wireless Sub which > costs $750 and get it for 30% off so you spend $80 or even $100 to get a > $225 discount and if you were to buy a full surround setup or a new Sonos > Amp with in-wall speakers you might get a discount around $400 or $500. > I can't wait what Sonos will come out with in 2023, typically they release 2 > new products a year, this year the second in October was a new Sub Mini > (can't remember what the first was), in 2023 it seems already confirmed > there is a new speaker called Optimus which is going to be a better sounding > Sonos One or Five, not quite sure. It is supposed to be Wi-Fi 6 capable and > in addition also support full Bluetooth streaming in addition to Airplay 2 > which most Sonos speakers have. > There are also rumours about a new flagship soundbar and while that might be > cool, I never give up hope until they finally add a high-end Sonos headset > into the mix which would allow me to have a headset which is part of my > Sonos system without having to resort to work-arounds like connecting a > Bluetooth receiver/transmitter to a Sonos Port or stuff like that which in > any case never would sound as good as a good headset which would get its > signal via your Wi-Fi. > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 10:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Accessibility of music service aps > > You could always get a Sonos Port and hook it up to your Denon receiver > since this would then also allow you to bring the speakers connected to your > receiver into the Sonos system, group them and so on. > Sonos also has it's own voice assistant and it can live alongside Alexa on > any voice enabled Sonos speaker like the Roam, Move, One or any of the > soundbars. It works great for changing volume and it's fantastic if you have > multiple Sonos speakers and you want to group them. You never have to open > the app any more, I for example often want our living room Arc and surround > system grouped with a set of Sonos One speakers in the kitchen because then > my wife can watch a movie and I can listen in the kitchen if I am still > doing something. I simply go in the kitchen and say "Hey Sonos, group > cooking" This is because I made a group with living room and kitchen and > named it cooking, I could also say "Hey Sonos, group living room and kitchen > Sonos, basically you say you want to group whatever your speaker names are > and it's actually amazing how fast it happens, Sonos voice assistant barely > says "Grouping cooking" when the audio already starts playing. > In the same way if I am done and join my wife in the living room I just say > "Hey Sonos, ungroup cooking" as I am walking out of the kitchen and it's > done. Similarly if I have Sonos playing in say 3 rooms, bedroom, kitchen and > living room, I can ask the Sonos assistant to change the volume which > changes it for the entire group or I can ask it to change the volume in the > living room or mute the bedroom etc. For actual system control it works > incredibly well. > Before I bought my first Sonos surround sound setup, a Playbar, set of Play > 1 speakers for rear surrounds and a Sonos Sub I had a high-end Sony Elite > series 7.1 surround sound receiver and while this was before the days when > just about everything was connected and had an app, I had what back then was > a Sonos Connect hooked up to it via a digital optical connection. In this > way Sonos was just another input source and if I wanted to listen to music > in the living room I selected the optical digital input and after that I > didn't need to do anything any more with my receiver since my music > selection and all that was then done via the Sonos app. And since the > Connect and now the new Port also has analogue inputs, I was able to connect > my Sony receiver's analogue outputs in turn back into the Connect and this > way any other source connected to my Sony receiver like CD player, Blu-Ray, > satellite TV receiver could be played on my Sonos system throughout the > house. If you are building a Sonos system and have an existing stereo system > getting a Port is almost inevitable and it also happens to be one of the > less expensive Sonos items. > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 9:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Accessibility of music service aps > > Good question. Mostly because it’s not supported by my Denon receiver, which > does support Airplay though. It does check all of the other boxes, and I > have a three month free subscription, so I definitely need to check it out. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 11:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Accessibility of music service aps > > Why are you not considering Apple Music? I don't know about your Denon > receiver, but it's certainly supported by Sonos and you can select Apple > Music as your preferred music service in the Alexa app so if you tell Alexa > on your Sonos Roam to play whatever music it will do so playing from Apple > Music. > > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:05 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Accessibility of music service aps > > I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m > deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with > each as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their > opinions on the accessibility of the apps for these services. > > Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for > something that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to > use. I just bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I > also have smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I > can use Airplay and Chromecast, but a service or assistant that supports > these services would be a nice to have. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. 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