Right, Gera, I just give it a little bit of time, then ask my question. So far 
it is working fine, but I still would rather be able to hear a tone. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When using Siri with VoiceOver, Remember to Give That Beep a Chance

Orin your mind (like I've done for some weeks now), while the Siri tone is 
playing, think a phrase like "Hey Siri"; coinciding when the tone ends, you've 
done thinking the phrase. This has definitely gotten awesome results!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 28 dic 2022, a la(s) 1:38 a.m., M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> escribió:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> For the first 48 hours or so after activating my new 14, I thought the 
> device might be defective as almost 90% of my Siri requests were not 
> being understood by the phone.
> 
> For example, when making requests such as, "Call Richard" or "Call 
> Sieghard, mobile", Siri would respond with something like, "Could you say 
> that again?
> I didn't quite understand you."
> 
> Even when I asked Siri for the current weather conditions in a 
> particular city, I would receive an error response.  This even 
> happened when I had my Apple Earpods, attached.  Now that I think 
> about it, I couldn't even get Siri to open the Calendar app.
> 
> Now keep in mind that it wasn't until I purchased the 14 that I had 
> any experience with OS 16, let alone OS 16.2.
> 
> I was so tired during that first 48-hour period, after purchasing 
> iPhone 14, because of a lack of sleep, that I blamed myself for doing 
> something wrong even though I could not pinpoint my error.
> 
> Of course I searched Google for solutions but could not find any 
> articles on the subject.  This led me to believe that the issue was 
> not widespread, at the very least.
> 
> I was just beginning to consider taking the new phone back to the 
> Apple Store when, near the end of that first 48-hour period, I decided 
> to upgrade my beloved iPad Pro 2017 from iPad OS 15.x to iPad 16.2.  
> Immediately after doing so, I experienced the exact same phenomenon on the 
> iPad.
> 
> To say that my mind was blown, would be the understatement of the 
> holiday season.
> 
> After experiencing the same glitch on two devices, one new and the 
> other that, until the update to the latest OS, had performed 
> flawlessly, I realized that the issue was with 16.2 and not a hardware 
> problem.
> 
> So I asked myself what had changed between OS 15.x and OS 16.x.  The 
> answer, which I had read about in this community, was the Siri beep prompt.
> 
> As many had reported and discussed, on-list, Apple, in its infinite 
> wisdom, changed the beep prompt that VoiceOver users hear, when activating 
> Siri.
> 
> Now I do my best to read virtually every thread posted to this list.  
> This can be an overwhelming task, at times, so, sometimes I simply 
> miss the proverbial "meat & potatoes" of a thread.  I write this to 
> say that what I discovered, organically, has most likely already been 
> described, on-list. So I apologize if this is redundant.
> 
> Okay, what occurred to me was that the most significant difference 
> between the legacy Siri beep prompt and the new Siri beep prompt was 
> the length of time it takes the new prompt to end.  The difference is 
> less than one second but it is a significant difference, all the same.
> 
> So I asked myself, what would happen if, instead of speaking to Siri 
> near the beginning of the prompt, as I have always done, I waited 
> until the prompt completely ended.
> 
> So, I tried it and . Yes, you guessed it; that is all it took in order 
> to bring Siri recognition back to virtually 100% on both devices.
> 
> After that, I realized that I have been, to a much lesser degree 
> experiencing the same problem on both of my Apple TV models.  These 
> models, also, use the new Siri beep prompt.  Waiting just that extra 
> little moment, before speaking to Siri made a universe full of difference.
> 
> So, if you are finding that Siri is not as accurate in its responses 
> as it was in previous versions of the OS, after activating Siri, wait 
> until the new beep prompt has completely ended, before speaking, and 
> you should notice quite a difference in the results.
> 
> When using Siri with VoiceOver, remember to give that beep a chance, 
> to end, that is, (smile), before speaking.
> 
> Mark
> 
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