Yes, they do have an iOS app and I find it quite accessible. Could it be 
better, there is always room for improvement, but I can open my SafeNotes and 
read their context or I can pick either Roboform or iCloud when I am trying to 
log in somewhere.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News


I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.



I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:



The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The 
Verge<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18235173/the-best-hardware-security-keys-yubico-titan-key-u2f>



Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: 
Electronics<https://www.amazon.ca/Yubico-YubiKey-NFC-Authentication-USB/dp/B07HBD71HL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1E73BD6POHST6&keywords=yubikey&qid=1674409683&sprefix=yubico%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzOU8wUUVST1RIQlpaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY2MTE3M0pJS0NIVkxaMUdNRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTczNDY3MUE0MDlPU0o5TEhSOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1>

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.





Best regards,

Sieghard





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

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Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
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This is great feedback, Sieghard.  Thank you.



To tell you the truth, I'm kind of afraid to enable the feature for fear of 
losing the key.



I believe that with OS 16.3 one can actually use some kind of physical recovery 
key, but as I have no idea of how this would work, I'm holding off on the 
feature, for now.



You, however, are a brave man, "Charlie Brown."  (smile).



Mark



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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

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Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News



I read your article and afterwards checked my iPhone 13 Pro and Advanced Data 
Protection is also available in Canada.

I turned it on, it asks you to set up a recovery contact although I don't think 
it forces you to do so, but if you do they will get a text message and have to 
tap on "Agree" before they are confirmed as a recovery contact.

Otherwise you do as far as I could tell set up a recovery key, it consists of a 
series of 28 random numbers and letters, 7 groups of 4 each. You have to write 
this down because once you tap on continue you have to re-enter that entire 
recovery key before it becomes active.

Lastly, after I was all done my Advanced Data protection was still off so I 
tapped on it again and I was then told that I still hadn't updated my iPad and 
Apple TV and since setting it up on one device then applies the encryption to 
all devices signed in to that Apple Id, they all have to be updated to the 
latest OS version.



-----Original Message-----

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Friday, January 20, 2023 11:21 AM

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Subject: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your 
iCloud data, Mac Daily News



How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud 
data Wednesday, December 14, 2022 10:07 am



By default, Apple’s iCloud secures your information by encrypting it when it’s 
in transit, storing it in an encrypted format, and securing your encryption 
keys in Apple data centers. In addition, many Apple services use end-to-end 
encryption; your information is encrypted using keys derived from your devices 
and your device passcode, which only you know. For the highest level of cloud 
data security, you can turn on Advanced Data Protection (iOS 16.2 or later 
required; available only in the U.S., currently).

With Advanced Data Protection enabled, not even Apple will not be access the 
data when it’s stored on the company’s servers.



Advanced Data Protection uses end-to-end encryption on more data categories 
such as the following:

• Device backup

• Messages backup

• iCloud Drive

• Notes

• Photos

• Reminders

• Safari bookmarks

• Siri Shortcuts

• Voice Memos

• Wallet passes



With Advanced Data Protection, your protected data can be decrypted only on 
your trusted devices, protecting your information even in the case of a data 
breach in the cloud. Not even Apple can access your information.



Before you turn on Advanced Data Protection, you’ll be guided to set up at 
least one alternative recovery method: a recovery contact or a recovery key. 
With Advanced Data Protection enabled, Apple doesn’t have the encryption keys 
needed to help you recover your end-to-end encrypted data. If you ever lose 
access to your account, you’ll need to use one of your account recovery methods 
— your device passcode or password, your recovery contact, or recovery key — to 
recover your iCloud data.

Your device passcode or password is the passcode on your iPhone or iPad, or the 
login password on your Mac that you set to protect your device and enable 
two-factor authentication. It’s also used to reset your Apple ID password and 
to recover your end-to-end encrypted data if you lose access to your account.

A recovery contact is a trusted friend or family member who can use their Apple 
device to help you regain access to your account and data. They won’t have any 
access to your account, only the ability to give you a code to help you recover 
your account. Learn more about recovery contacts.

A recovery key is a secret 28-character code that you can use, along with a 
trusted phone number and an Apple device, to recover your account and data. 
Learn more about recovery keys.



To turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, you need:

• An Apple ID with two-factor authentication.

• A passcode or password set for your device.

• At least one account recovery contact or recovery key. If you don’t already 
have one, you’ll be guided to set one up when you turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.

• Updated software on all of the devices where you’re signed in with your Apple 
ID:

iPhone with iOS 16.2

iPad with iPadOS 16.2

Mac with macOS 13.1

Apple Watch with watchOS 9.2

Apple TV with tvOS 16.2

HomePod with software version 16.2

Windows computer with iCloud for Windows 14.1 Managed Apple IDs and child 
accounts are not eligible for Advanced Data Protection.



How to turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud:

You can turn on Advanced Data Protection on an iPhone with iOS 16.2, iPad with 
iPad OS 16.2, or a Mac with macOS 13.1. Turning on Advanced Data Protection on 
one device enables it for your entire account and all your compatible devices.



On iPhone or iPad:

1. Open the Settings app.

2. Tap your name, then tap iCloud.

3. Scroll down, tap Advanced Data Protection, then tap Turn on Advanced Data 
Protection.

4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
Advanced Data Protection.



On Mac:

1. Choose Apple menu  > System Settings.

2. Click your name, then click iCloud.

3. Click Advanced Data Protection, then click Turn On.

4. Follow the onscreen instructions to review your recovery methods and enable 
Advanced Data Protection.



WARNING: If you use Advanced Data Protection, you’re responsible for your data 
recovery. Because Apple won’t have the keys required to recover your data, 
you’ll need to have a Recovery Contact or Recovery Key set up on your account. 
You can use these additional recovery methods to regain access to your data if 
you ever forget your password or lose access to your account.



Note: If you choose to turn off Advanced Data Protection later, your iCloud 
data will revert to the standard level of security.



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