Just as an FYI, but on my Sonos Roam, I can run Alexa and the Sonos Assistant at the same time. If I were to use Google Assistant then that would be the only assistant I could have running.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 2:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything interesting" in audio - The Verge You can, first of all the Five is the only speaker which doesn't have microphones, their 3 soundbars all do as does the Sonos One, Move and Roam (the latter two are their rechargeable, portable speakers). As somebody else pointed out, there is a Sonos One SL as well as versions of the soundbars which don't have microphones. As for the Five, all you would have to do is put an Echo Dot in the same room as your Five or stereo pair of Fives and then set up the Sonos Five as the default speaker in the Alexa app and it is basically like having Alexa on the speaker, of course you would not get the Sonos voice assistant, but it primarily shines for Sonos related stuff like asking it to group speakers and so on. I can't wait to find out what the Era 100 and 300 have to offer and there are rumours that a larger Era 500 will follow later, but of course nobody really knows whereas the 100 and 300 are confirmed and most likely will be announced shortly as is the second generation Move. The Move by the way is an amazing speaker, I think it is relatively close to the Five in sound quality and it does have microphones. Later this year the first of the 4 new categeories Sonos said they wil l enter will be announced and I sure hope it will finally be a headset although it is expected that another of these categories will be car audio. Sonos is definitely still king whenb it comes to multi-room audio with their broad offering of speakers from the small and larger portable (Roam and Move) to the Sonos One and Sonos Five, the 3 sound bars (Ray, Beam and Arc) and the Sonos wireless Sub and Sub Mini. Lastly there is the Amp which can connect either to traditional bookshelf, tower or architectural speakers (in-wall and in-ceiling) and the Sonos Port which doesn't get as much hipe, but it's a great device if you have a very good existing stereo system or surround system and you want to add it into the Sonos eco system. Combine all that with a huge selection of online music services you can connect to in the Sonos app, Airplay 2 support and Bluetooth streaming (for now only possible to the Roam and Move, but expected to potentially be on the new Era speakers) and you have an incredibly versatile system. I even read an article about a new receiver (I think it might have been Yahama, but could have been a different brand) which has some sort of Sonos integration built into the amp. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 9:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything interesting" in audio - The Verge I heard a Charge five and the sound was awesome! Unfortunately, it did not have Alexa integration. I decided to go for a Marshall Alexa powered speaker with Blue Tooth. For those using sonos, do you wish you could use it with Alexa? Kelly On 2/10/23, 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I thought about grabbing a Sonos Move this week as I have a coupon for > a discount that expires Sunday. But now I am going to wait and see if > they will refresh that model. I bought a roam last year and gave it to > Nicki, my wife, who had a specific need for it and it serves her well. > The accessibility of the Sonos system is very good except on the Mac. > I made several requests to have their Mac app as accessible as the PC > and iPhone app. > Regarding the battery status, however, I have several Sony Headphones > that will give me the battery status with the push of a button. I have > two > WH1000-XM4 which still sell on Amazon for around $250 even though the > XN5 model is available for around $350. The right side of the > headphones are touch but very accessible. The left side has push > buttons. One button speaks the battery status when pushed while the > headphones are in operation. > If I didn’t already own the WH1000-XM4 I would have the XM5 because of > the greater noise reduction for making calls in a crowded room. But > the XN4 are my go to headphones on the iPhone and totally accessible. > Getting back to Sonos, I have never been disappointed with their > quality or their committment to accessibility. If I lived in a house > rather than an apartment, I would own a lot more than the ten Sonos > speakers that I currently do own. > Merv > > _____ > If you have questions regarding Sonos, Fire TV, Fire Stick, Fire Cube, > Echo or other Lady A powered device, we are the oldest and largest > group dedicated to blind users: > main+subscr...@echoing.groups.io > main+<mailto:main+subscr...@echoing.groups.io> > > If you own an Apple Watch, let’s get uncomplicated together. We are a > group of blind users that have been around for a few years and support > any ad all models of the Apple Watch. > applewatchuncomplicated+subscr...@groups.io > <mailto:applewatchuncomplicated+subscr...@groups.io> > > >> On Feb 10, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Angie Nutt <an...@comproom.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Thanks for that: am interested in what the Era models will be like. >> >> While on the subject of Sonos: I was wondering recently whether there >> are any other brands who have speakers which one can speak to and get >> the information about the battery spoken back. When I discovered I >> had access to Sonos Voice I quickly got it set up and was blown away >> by the fact that I could do that. To my mind, that makes them >> eminently accessible. There are other bluetooth speakers and >> headphones on which one can press a button and get that information >> but this is the first time I’ve seen anything quite like what I can do with >> my Roam and Move. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 9 Feb 2023, at 17:52, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>> >>> Here the other article from The Verge: >>> >>> Sonos CEO says Amazon, Google aren’t "doing anything interesting" in >>> audio And he doesn’t sound particularly impressed by Apple’s >>> second-generation HomePod, either. >>> By CHRIS WELCH/ Feb 8, 2023, 3:53 PM PST >>> >>> During Sonos’ Q1 2023 earnings call, CEO Patrick Spence expressed >>> the usual optimism about his company’s financial performance, sales >>> momentum, and upcoming product roadmap. This man really loves the word >>> “flywheel,” >>> folks. But he also took clear jabs at Big Tech competitors, >>> including Amazon, Google, and Apple, for barely putting up a fight >>> in recent months. With Amazon rumored to be taking a hard look at >>> its ambitions surrounding Alexa and Echo products and Google largely >>> focused on all things Pixel, Spence said that Sonos faced no serious >>> competition during the crucial holiday quarter. “We’ve gone through >>> fiscal Q1, which is the height of the consumer electronics and audio >>> season and we’ve seen some of the traditional players go heavy >>> discounting and, kind of like a traditional playbook for consumer >>> electronics that we’ve always fought against and don’t really >>> believe in,” he said. “And then, the big tech players, we just >>> haven’t seen them active and we haven’t seen them doing anything >>> interesting.” >>> Neither of Sonos’ primary smart speaker rivals launched any new >>> audio hardware during the holiday quarter. And Apple’s >>> second-generation HomePod arrived after it had already ended. But >>> Sonos doesn’t seem all that impressed with or concerned about Apple’s >>> resurrected $299 device. >>> “We never want to get overconfident in these things, but you know, >>> even seeing what’s emerged recently, from Apple, I could not be more >>> excited or confident about the product roadmap we have and our >>> ability to take more and more of that $96 billion global audio market,” >>> Spence said. >>> Google’s most recent home audio product is the aging Nest Audio, and >>> Amazon’s fall 2022 hardware event went light on smart speakers: the >>> company introduced a refreshed Echo Dot and added a new white color >>> option for the top-of-the-line Echo Studio. The regular Echo speaker >>> was last refreshed in 2020. >>> I just feel like there’s others that are probably questioning their >>> investments in this area, and we are investing in four new >>> categories. We are going to raise the bar in our existing >>> categories. I mean, we’ve got a lot going on,” Spence added. >>> Sonos has said it will release a product in the first of those new >>> categories sometime in 2023. In the nearer term, Sonos will be >>> revitalizing its high-end home audio lineup with new speakers, >>> including the Era 300 and Era 100. Both are designed to showcase >>> spatial audio and Dolby Atmos. A second-generation Sonos Move >>> portable speaker is also under development, The Verge has learned. >>> Discounts on Sonos products over the holidays helped the company >>> deliver strong earnings and beat Wall Street expectations for the Q1 >>> fiscal quarter. This was the first time that Sonos had been able to >>> offer those promotions in three years; the multi-room audio leader >>> struggled to keep its speakers and soundbars in stock during the >>> covid pandemic, facing the same supply chain woes that reverberated >>> across the tech industry But the deals were back this time — even if >>> some of them just returned Sonos products to their former pricing. >>> Either way, the company put greater emphasis on bundles that boost >>> its percentage of multi-product customer households. The average >>> number of products for each Sonos household is currently 2.98. 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