Wireless charging is just not fast enough yet. I don't think portless phones are quite there yet.
On 3/30/23, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: > I never use wireless charging. I can recharge my iPhone so much > faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging. > > On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't >> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is limiting >> the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning port now has. >> >> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone without >> any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm headphone jack, >> once >> they do this Samsung and others will follow on their heels. >> >> >> >> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual channel >> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch >> compared >> to the 20 feet single channel offers" >> >> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities >> between >> tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of time may >> result >> in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices cannot do this in most >> applications or without the euse of additional "augmentation >> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20augmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>", >> here the definition of what that is: >> >> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, >> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, >> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself. >> >> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can >> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known as >> Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They >> >> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly >> accurate >> positions." >> >> And here a page from the US government website about GPS >> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one >> highlight here is this: >> >> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will depend >> on >> the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are visible and >> processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS signals (direct, >> reflection, interference). >> >> As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error across >> the >> entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of the time on 20 >> April >> 2021. >> >> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately makes >> the >> GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 years ago, >> specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a stop to the >> so-called >> "selective availabbility" which was used throughout the 90's globally to >> make GPS signals for civilian use less accurate. On the GPS website it >> says >> " The United States has no intent to ever use Selective Availability >> again.". >> >> >> >> What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or "multi >> band" >> and many of the newer Garmin GPS's including some of Garmin's watches >> already have this. >> >> Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website: >> >> >> >> What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS? >> >> Dual-frequency or "Multi-Band" systems use multiple frequency bands and >> allow for more consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using >> the >> device in challenging environments. >> >> This means the receiver tracks more than one radio signal from each >> satellite on different frequencies, which can reduce errors caused by >> environmental interference. >> >> >> >> What Advantages Do Multi-Band Devices Have Over Other Models? >> >> • More consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the >> device >> in challenging environments (e.g. around tall buildings in urban canyons >> as >> well as tree cover) >> >> • Can achieve accuracy within about +/- 2 meters or 6 feet under ideal >> conditions versus the +/- 3 meters or 10 feet accuracy of other models >> >> • Detect (and reject) reflected satellite signals better than a single >> frequency receiver which improves accuracy >> >> • Better equipped to account for and correct errors that can be >> introduced >> by atmospheric effects (e.g. ionosphere errors) >> >> NOTE: Multi-GNSS satellite systems include GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, QZSS, >> BeiDou, and IRNSS (NavIC). Some satellite systems are not available in >> all >> areas of the globe. >> >> For more details, see https://www.gps.gov/systems/gnss/ >> >> >> >> I am sure the iPhone 15 Pro will undoubtedly be a fantastic device, but >> it >> seems Apple is differenciating the Pro models more and more from the >> regular >> models and then we have rumours of an iPhone 15 Ultra although I also >> read >> that this may possibly what Apple will call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and >> they >> will give it even more features or make it tougher than the regular >> iPhone >> 15 Pro. >> >> I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any >> iPhone >> in the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy especially not in >> the >> places where most people live like cities with tall buildings and many >> sources of potential interference. For now the next big reveal will be >> iOS >> 17 on Monday, June 5 which Apple announced today is when WWDC will start. >> Then we'll wait another 3 or so months and probably on Tuesday, September >> 12 >> or so Apple wil lhave the fall hardware reveal although most rumours will >> have been confirmed at least a few weeks before then. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Kelly >> Pierce >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models >> >> >> >> I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a >> spectacular >> upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10 to 20 times >> the >> transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It will be the first >> smart >> phone with a three nanometer processor, delivering blazing fast speeds. >> It >> may also have dual channel satellite navigation, giving location data as >> accurate as an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that >> was >> in all iPhones before the 14 Pro. >> >> >> >> Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I now >> have >> 512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With USB 2.0, >> transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several hours. This >> is >> also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos with the >> 48-megapixel >> camera or 4k video. They need to move these big photos and videos off >> their >> phones and onto their computers for more storage. >> >> >> >> For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off >> their >> phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it out for >> another metal band. >> >> >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles >> <cdrobles...@gmail.com<mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple >> >>> Watch fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I >> >>> saved up enough money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a >> >>> bigger screen, and the fact that it has two speakers and tactile >> >>> buttons. If I type it right if I get it or rather if I purchase it on >> >>> April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is April 6. This is >> >>> definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end up with, >> >>> I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and >> >>> greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for >>> you. >>> I hope it works out for you. Good luck. >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> >> >>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles >>>> <cdrobles...@gmail.com<mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a >> >>>> member at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well >> >>>> for me and I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than >> >>>> the 8+. I do like the feature where when you power on and off the >> >>>> phone it actually makes a sound. I never got that with the 8+. Yes, >> >>>> it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles like the pro model does >> >>>> but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean. >> >>>> >> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >>>>> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are >> >>>>> considering the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can >> >>>>> find an iPhone 13 Pro instead. >> >>>>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 >> >>>>> Pro/Pro Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put >> >>>>> their latest chip in a new phone. Basically if you buy an iPhone 14 >> >>>>> you get the same processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro. >> >>>>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the >> >>>>> LiDAR sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I >> >>>>> assume as time goes by, more developers may make use of it so I >> >>>>> think it's a good thing to have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. >> >>>>> This means you have to get a Pro phone, the first one which had this >> >>>>> was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro phons came out the >> >>>>> 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same applies to >> >>>>> the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and the >> >>>>> regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person >> >>>>> you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. >> >>>>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know >>>>> here >>>>> in Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >> >>>>> Of William Outman >> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM >> >>>>> To: V IPhone List >>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >> >>>>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. >> >>>>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several >> >>>>> choices in this family. >> >>>>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can >> >>>>> decide which one to get. 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