Right. and for me I couldn't get to that point. It showed iOS 17 public beta, but it refused to be selected so long as VO was on. Very strange and annoying. 

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On Oct 4, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:



Glad you got it sorted out, for me selecting the Beta involved nothing more than to go to Settings > General > Software Update, then to swipe right a couple of time to where it said "Beta Updates, Off", I double tapped on that and then I had the option to select between the iOS 17 Public and iOS 17 Developer Beta.

When I just did the same thing I hear "Beta Updates, iOS 17 Developer Beta, button" and if I double tap on it I get:

Off

iOS 17 Public Beta

Selected, iOS 17 Developer Beta

This indicates that I chose to be part of the developer beta, I could now switch it to the public beta or set it to off by double tapping on either one of those options.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

 

Sieghard, you missed my follow up message I think. It absolutely would not turn on using VoiceOver. But my sighted wife was able to enable it after I turned off VoiceOver. Now, all the custom tones are back.

However, I still am not getting them to sound when new mail comes in. O well. 

 

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On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:



You don't have to enroll any more and do all of this and install the profile, all you do now is you turn on either the public beta or developer beta in Settings > General > Software Update. If you don't want to participate any more just turn it back off and the next time a public release comes out which is higher than your beta release it will install and that is that.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 3:04 PM
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Yes, and I went to beta.apple.com/profile and tried to enroll my phone, but only got instructions to go to settings, general, software, and toggle beta software on. No go. 

 

 

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On Oct 3, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:



Richard, Just checking, but you are going into Settings -> General -> Software Update right? And you’re saying that the Beta Update toggle is set to off. I don’t want to try this right now, but I seem to recall that it wasn’t obvious when that toggle was toggled on. I think I toggled it on and when I came back after a while, it was good to go.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 1:40 PM
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Well, apparently, no matter what I try, the beta software refuses to be on my iPhone 13 pro.

I followed the instructions from beta.apple.com/profile and the settings,General,Software, beta is stuck on off.

So, I will just wait a few weeks for them to release it.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Your decision, for me the iOS 17.1 beta works well and since it just came out it's probably going to be at least 4 weeks or maybe 5 beforew the iOS 17.1 public release.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

 

Thanks Sieghard for confirming this.

I think I can hold on until the public release of 17.1.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 10:46 PM
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For me I always had my custom ringtones under Sounds > Ringtone, but under the other categories like Text, Voicemail I did not.

Anyways, I installed iOS 17.1 Developer Beta and just checked and now all my custom tones are also back and I can use them for text tone, voice mail, email etc.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

 

No, I'm referring to tones you create, save as m4r files and add to your phone. That is not available in the iOS 17 or 17.0.1. 

 

 

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On Oct 2, 2023, at 6:42 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavi...@gmail.com> wrote:



You can still customize tones for texting for all or for individual contacts, and you can play sounds for incoming mail/VIP senders.  If you’re referring though to the new tones introduced in the previous version of beta 17.0, I’m not sure.  An article said that the new tones went away with this latest release, but it is very possible they could be back soon.

 

Also according to the article I read, there were updates to Apple Music, and there were a couple visual changes such as a flashlight indicator showing up in the top bar above the top row of icons sits, but the anticipated Journal app from Apple has yet to make its appearance.

I

Can try and find the article and send it tomorrow morning, but if not then some time later in the day.

 

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

Legal Transcriptionist

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: vibratory feedback returns, as well as classic default tones

 

Any idea if custom ringtones are back? 

 

 

Richard, USA 

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On Oct 2, 2023, at 6:16 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavi...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hey everyone,

 

I’ve been playing with the public beta of iOS 17 for several weeks now.  About a month ago, perhaps less, I noticed that with an update to the beta, the haptic occurring when the phone was unlocked all of a sudden was non existeng.  I am happy to report though that as of updating the software yesterday to 17.1, this vibratory feedback on screen unlock is once again back.

 

I also noticed that all of a sudden VoiceOver was speaking temporary banners as they popped up on the top of the screen as they did two versions of 17 ago.  Glad to see these have returned as well.

 

I did see in an article that the new ringtones temporarily with iOS 17.1 in this past updated version are now no longer present in this latest version.  While I liked them, I did miss certain automatically-played sounds/tones with certain functions.

 

 

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Loreal Lavigna

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