Oh, just to note that you did succeed to misquote even in that short post (this post comes with lot of smiles, so no hard feelings regarding that):
My app is not free, it is just free for VoiceOver users. It costs 10$ otherwise. 97% of users of my app on Apple devices aren't VoiceOver users and the same is for 89% of users on Android devices. So I just provide for free the app that other people regularly pay as I have decided to do so. On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 12:08:28 AM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote: > Thank you Ivan. > I'm looking forward to trying your app out with a Bookshare book once it > is clear to me how to go about getting one into the app. > > > Richard, USA > > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God > stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to > get it.” > > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > > > > > On Jan 31, 2024, at 2:59 PM, Ivan Icin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Richard, > > I apologise for that word "misquoting". Maybe my impression from the old > time that you are biased wasn't correct or maybe something has changed, but > that is irrelevant now. > > I am happy for myself to feel the trust in the words that you post. So > from my side feel completely free to share your honest opinion and you can > count on my full respect for it. > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 11:45:13 PM UTC+1 Mary Otten wrote: > >> Ivan, >> Might it just be that the reason you had so few folks downloading stuff >> from bookshare is that it was so difficult? Not straightforward at all? Not >> at all like what we can get in Voice Dream reader or I believe also dolphin >> easy reader, which I don’t personally use but have looked at. >> For myself, by far the greatest use I have on my phone is Bhaṭṭa. Yes, I >> have imported E pubs and PDF files into Voice during reader, which is where >> I read all that stuff. And it helps to have the share thing off of the >> website where you’re getting the documents from. so if Bookshare doesn’t >> have that, they should, and I certainly wouldn’t mind asking them to >> implement it. However, it is disingenuous to suppose that your figures >> wouldn’t be a heck of a lot different if you actually had a straightforward >> means of importing things . Anything that adds unnecessary complexity to >> the process of getting a document from where it is to where you want to >> read it is a significant deterrent, especially when other much more >> efficient alternatives are available. That’s just how it is. >> directly from books like Voice dream has. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Ivan Icin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Richard, >> >> >> I am not sure if you misquote me intentionally or unintentionally. >> >> Either way, the correct fact is that I have supported Bookshare for 7 >> years. All of the users of the app together in December 2024 downloaded 10 >> books from Bookshare. Yes that is less of work to download those ten book >> for those 10 users ( than for me to write the support for Bookshare (and I >> would quickly remind you on your statements on how much support is >> expensive for one app that you love and how they need to charge immense >> amount for that). >> >> I am not sure how you can blame me for Speech Central users (including if >> you make the subgroup of VoiceOver users only) highly prefer to use PDFs, >> ePubs, web and almost everything else except books from Bookshare. I did >> spend my effort on non-profit basis for 7 years to support those people >> even if their volume of usage wasn't something that justified the support. >> I would imagine that this deserves some words like "thank you" or something >> similar. What exactly did I do wrong? >> >> Further I think that at the moment if someone is to be blamed it is >> Bookshare as they do allow downloads from the website, but don't implement >> the share function in their Reader app which would make importing into any >> app a piece of cake. No need for any app in this world to write the support >> for Bookshare as every app would support Bookshare. >> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 10:21:59 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote: >> >>> I just downloaded it to try and immediately found out that to install >>> books from bookshare you have to download the DAISY file and import it >>> because the developer decided that customers could download the ten books >>> per month that way rather than him having to take the time to program for >>> their interface ... >>> BTW, did you try the update to VDR today to see if it fixed your >>> download issue? >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 12:47 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I just saw this on Apple viz.. Has anyone actually used this app? I had >>> it on android and frankly couldn’t figure out how to use it or what it >>> would be good for. But I’m not God’s gift to android that’s for sure. So I >>> want to know if there are voice dream users out there using iPhones who >>> have use this app. I’m not interested in hearing from the developer. I >>> already saw his propaganda. I want real world users commenting. Thanks. >>> The next generation of Speech Central has been launched >>> AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products >>> ... / Labsii >>> >>> Forum >>> iOS and iPadOS >>> >>> As the app was in the beta testing for more than two months some people >>> may already know what the new version is about. >>> >>> But during the beta period features were not publicly announced, that >>> has happened for the first time just few days ago on the App Store. >>> >>> This isn't just another update. It isn't even another big update. And it >>> is hard to provide the comparison, but if you take any of the competing >>> apps and their cumulative updates in the last 5 years the shear size >>> doesn't even come close to this. >>> >>> The full list improvements would require more than 1000 lines of text to >>> tell. If we talk about new features, that would be still in hundreds of >>> lines. Even major features are well above dozen of bullet lines. >>> >>> So I would like to focus on just one thing that reveals all the magic >>> behind the effort - the new Emulate book narration mode. This feature >>> brings quite a bit of the soul to robotic voices. Check this benchmark >>> using the Apple's Ava Premium voice on the same text in Speech Central and >>> Voice Dream: https://youtu.be/lCbr8HqXUCc >>> >>> Also you can check the same for Microsoft Ema voice in Speech Central >>> and NaturalReader: https://youtu.be/HRiDafir-NY >>> >>> Regarding the other features I'll just use the same list as I have used >>> in the App Store: >>> - Design overhaul that maximises the space for the text on iPhone and >>> adds sidebar functionality to the iPad >>> - Multiwindow/multidocument support on the iPad >>> - Instant mode for quick and simple reading >>> - Music Intermezzo - inject Apple Music into your listening >>> - Improved accessibility >>> - Improved sync - more comprehensive, robust and performant >>> - Numerous new settings options >>> - Siri voice command to start playing now works even behind the lock >>> screen >>> >>> As the app is free when used with VoiceOver, the best thing is to try it >>> yourself: >>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/speech-central-ai-voice-reader/id1127349155 >>> >>> >>> Original Article: >>> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/next-generation-speech-central-has-been-launched >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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