If you listen to Jonathan's podcast you will learn that after May 1st, you will still be able to access everything in your library. Apparentbby, you will not be able to add to the library. I think that fits your analogy with purchasing a game. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
On Mar 30, 2024, at 9:41 PM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Richard,
I absolutely appreciate that the economics of maintaining an app are tricky.
However, Apple Developer guideline 3.1.2 clearly states:
If you are changing your existing app to a subscription-based business model, you should not take away the primary functionality existing users have already paid for. For example, let customers who have already purchased a “full game unlock” continue to access the full game after you introduce a subscription model for new customers.
This is why, for example, when the Weather Gods app converted to a subscription, existing users (those who already paid for the app) kept the functionality they previously paid for.
In this case, it seems like all our purchases (Voice Dream Reader, any purchased voices, Voice Dream Scanner, etc.) are simply going to be disabled. I do have some concerns with that, because it seems like the quoted Apple Developer review guideline states that this shouldn't occur.
I don't have any concerns about charging a subscription for new users, or charging existing users for updates. But I haven't ever heard of an app that is disabling previously purchased functionality from working at all. Regardless of the PR that this generates, I'm a little unclear how this is in accordance with the Developer Guidelines as quoted above.
If it is, I am curious then if it would be reasonable to expect every app purchase we've made on iOS to be disabled then at some point. I'm not talking about apps not being developed anymore and possibly not working anymore given an update to iOS etc.. I am talking about code that specifically tells the app not to recognize your previously purchased license.
just some food for thought. Again, I am absolutely sympathetic to the new owners of Voice Dream Reader, but I don't think disabling previous purchases is the appropriate solution. At the moment, I'm working on transitioning my audio content to Downcast. Haven't decided what to do about my text content yet.
Thank you,
I took Dennis’s advice and made a donation to listen to Jonathan interviewing Kishin Manglani from the Applause Group. It is very much worth listening to. It is fairly long, but it is very clear that they care very much about their customers and are doing their best to provide a quality product and adding new features. The one thing I noticed if you go into the Voice Dream Reader app and double tap on settings, then on subscription, it brings up the post titled Pricing Changes for One-Time Purchasers. As you read through that, when you get to the line that says, try the 14 day trial or something like that, it doesn’t say it is a link or button, but if you double tap on that, it takes you to the app store where you can choose to subscribe and get 2 weeks free if you were a one-time purchaser. I don’t know what you get if you are a new subscriber. But signing up this way keeps it fairly simple and familiar since it is within the app store. The difference from subscribing through the link through a service that seems to be called Stripe or something; whatever Jonathan said, the Applause Group gets a higher cut of the payment than if you go through the app store. I don’t know if people realize, that whatever price you pay for an app through the app store, Apple gets a pretty big cut. I think 20 or 30 percent and the developer gets the rest. IN any case, I’ve signed up through the app store. They will be offering a monthly option in the not too distant future. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com You can subscribe to livingly blindfully plus for just 60 American cents and get access today or wait 3 days. I strongly encourage you to listen to it. I do think the Voicedream team does care and value our feedback. Hello everybody I believe that we just have to except what do people with voice dream reader want to do. That developers are totally free to increase prices or make free apps, paid apps or whatever they feel they want to do need to do or have to do to make money. Just remember that Free doesn’t make any money for anybody and, he doesn’t buy anyone’s lunch. I think we’d all be better served if we could look for something that does the same things as voice dream reader and it’s either Free or at least at low cost. It just sounds like the people that work with voice dream reader are going to do whatever they’re going to do and they’re not willing to, or able to change their minds. Just trying to find an alternative would be a lot more productive for everybody than just talking about not being able to use voice dream reader. I’m just saying all this whatever it’s worth. For all I know it may not be worth anything not even a plug penny or a plug nickel. I highly doubt it violates any Apple rules, if a developer decides to increase the price for their app or to charge something for a previously free app or to switch to a subscription model then that is entirely their decision. If you search for Voice Dream Reader on the App Store, open the page for the app, and scroll down, there is an option to "report a problem". Please consider reporting what the developer is doing to Apple. I am not sure if it violates any developer guidelines, but it sure seems like it would: selling lifetime licenses with agreed upon terms and then disabling them. The nature of how the update was released also didn't give users any warning or opt-out, as the new deadline wasn't mentioned in the release notes. I think Apple uses these for internal purposes, and if enough people file reports then they may act upon it. I would also recommend leaving a review of the app and mentioning the upcoming disabling of previously purchased licenses, and how the update was handled. I absolutely do not have a problem with developers going the subscription route, charging for new features and updates, or raising prices. It's a tough world out there. But I do have serious concerns about pushing out an update that disables previously purchased licenses from continuing to work at all and not mentioning that this would happen in the release notes. I would imagine this will impact many schools and other educational institutions as well who will rely on having access to this app at least for the remainder of the school year. Let's hope we can share with the developer and Apple some constructive feedback. --
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAAhK5Q_6xx%3DYdcxPUqDoWEqUUP2qEPpZ3UhD7HB8_2EcynoiTQ%40mail.gmail.com. --
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56567B4BCF31E7BBB2781663C73A2%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DC839E34-2F6D-4D08-8874-866E153B9395%40gmail.com. --
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02ea01da82d2%24ae6d6980%240b483c80%24%40gmail.com.
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00de01da8306%24f1d91870%24d58b4950%24%40comcast.net.
--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAAhK5Q96NAJz3K%2BR4djz9M%3DCwrjvbfdciWRi1pyL1e2E-9tYHA%40mail.gmail.com.
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/333169E2-EB59-4DBF-BE50-16B61CCB1CDC%40comcast.net.
|
