There might be a slight variation between the Mac and iPhone. Ipad commands are pretty much the same as on the iPhone except there are a couple extra for things that are unique to the iPad.
I will have to go through my list to find that spot where I give the differences. But, note, that the keyboard commands referred to at the link in this message are for the Apple brand keyboards and ones with the FN key. For example, the screen curtain on and off is shown as: VO-Fn-Hyphen (or VO-Globe key-Hyphen, depending on your keyboard) Well, the Globe key as far as I know is only on Apple brand keyboards. My logitech keyboard doesn’t have that. But it does have an FN key in an awkward place but VO+FN+f11 does toggle screen curtain. I had had issues before, but it is working now. I need to update my list. Also, all keyboard commands can be customized if you don’t like the default ones. Richard, USA "INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Keith Kramlinger Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users Thank you very much for these. This is probably a very silly question. Do these keyboard commands for voiceover work for Bluetooth keyboards connected to an iPhone, a Mac, or both? Thanks in advance. Keith On Jun 26, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Robert Doc Wright <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Voiceover iPhone keyboard commands http://www.wrighthere.net/Voiceover_iPhone_keyboard_commands.txt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:33 AM Subject: RE: A question for Bluetooth users That is somewhat correct, there is no version of Whatsapp for the iPad "yet", but it is in Beta, see the below article: iPad users finally get a dedicated WhatsApp application; here's how to do it <https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ipad-users-finally-get-a-dedicated-whatsapp-application-heres-how-to-do-it/articleshow/103842898.cms?from=mdr> Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:54 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users No Mario. There is no Whatsappversion for IPad. You can only access it using a browser like Safari. Follow me on X @ibnalbalad > On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mario Eiland < <mailto:[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > > I can't answer that question. I don't use an iPad. I imagine the layout > might be a bit different from that of the iPhone since it's being used on a > larger screen and it takes advantage of the screen size. I presume you use > the iPhone version of WhatsApp? I find it pretty easy to navigate WhatsApp on > the iPhone. > > -----Original Message----- > From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] < > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> On Behalf Of > Cris Ali > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 7:05 AM > To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] > Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users > > Sorry Mario, I apologize for confusing your name. > I use an iPad and I got used to it with time. As you indicated, an iPad can > be a drag in the beginning for VO users. I am wondering if you tried using > the desktop version of Whatsapp on your iPad. I find the chronology of chats > very confusing. > Follow me on X @ibnalbalad > >> On Jun 26, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Mario Eiland < <mailto:[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Cris, >> I am not Robert, but I also use a Bluetooth keyboard quite extensively. I >> have never delt with the full keyboard feature before and I have been fine. >> Regarding your question about using it either with an iPhone or iPad, I use >> it with both although I don't recommend totally blind people to use an iPad >> since it's a bit unwieldy and you have to cover a lot of more screen real >> estate when navigating. I usually, recommend iPads for low vision folks so >> that they can take advantage of the screen size when dealing with zooming in >> and out. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] < >> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Cris Ali >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:40 PM >> To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >> Subject: Re: A question for Bluetooth users >> >> Thanks Robert. I tried to turn on the full Bluetooth Keyboard setting today >> to try it and found it weird to use compared to when it is turned off. >> Since you have been using Bluetooth Keyboard for many years, did you use on >> an iPhone or with an iPad? >> Follow me on X @ibnalbalad >> >>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright < >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> It is going to be based on what you get use to. I've been using a >>> BT keyboard for several years. I tried to switch to the hardware >>> keyboard feature but found it too cumbersome for me. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Cris Ali" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> >>> To: < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 12:23 PM >>> Subject: A question for Bluetooth users >>> >>> >>> Hello dear listers, >>> I posted my question on the BlindApple mailing list but got no >>> replies or comments. It sounds that there are no bluetooth keyboard users >>> on that list. >>> Hopefully I will be luckier here. >>> I am a new user of bluetooth keyboard with VoiceOver on an iPad. >>> Should I keep the full keyboard access setting found under settings, >>> accessibility,, full keyboard access on or off? What are the >>> advantages or disadvantages of keeping this setting to off or on >>> when using a bluetooth keyboard? 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