I definitely understand. If you ever change your mind, let me just help you and 
we'll get it fixed.

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 2:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I have dealt with them on the phone and gone through the fields on 
> their site twice. Right now, with all going on with Jim and all, I don't 
> intend to bother with them, at least for the time being. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
> 
> I was trying to help you get signed up for the Hadley stuff. That's what I 
> mean.
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 12:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't need an email address. Thanks. 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Joseph Hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:21 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>> 
>> Which email address do you want signed up? I might be able to help you fix 
>> that problem. With a little luck. I always seem to have magic.
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Without Applevis, plus Hadley, I'd have never learned to use my phone. I 
>>> can't get into Hadley now, have gone through the fields to sign up plus 
>>> have called Hadley on the phone to get signed up, but no go. I'm just glad 
>>> I got them as long as I did. 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 5:53 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: Applevis Site
>>> 
>>> It needs to be saved.  We as a community need to come together.  Without 
>>> Applevis I never would’ve gotten my first iPhone.  It is invaluable.
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marda
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 3:39 PM
>>> To: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>>> 
>>> Agreed.  There was something in the article, after telling us that it would 
>>> be taken down, that it was on read only status and tsomething like "as the 
>>> editorial staff consider other options"  (paraphrase, not an exact quote) 
>>> but I am thinking they would be open to keeping it up if someone qualified 
>>> technically and otherwise to run the site could be found who would be 
>>> willing to put in all that work on a voluntary basis, either one person or 
>>> possibly a group who had the proper skills.  I truly hope they find a way 
>>> to keep it up because the site has provided a wealth of information to me 
>>> as I have begun my journey through the apple world.  It was recommended to 
>>> me and the first place on the web that I went seeking information about how 
>>> to use my iPhone and apple watch.  (Still working on that one.)  I was 
>>> unaware that such things as the podcasts and articles could be downloaded 
>>> but someone mentioned that in a message.  Is this true?  We can save things 
>>> from applevis?  if it absolutely has to be taken down can or will it be put 
>>> in the wwayback machine on the internet archive so at least current content 
>>> could be accessed?
>>> Marda
>>> On 7/28/2024 11:17 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:
>>>     To be extra clear, David said it would go away after August 31st if no 
>>> other option is found.
>>>     While it is a slim chance this will happen, as it says in one of our 
>>> favorites songs from Spamalot, it is “not dead yet.”
>>>      
>>>     Richard, USA
>>>     "INTROVERTS UNITE ... 
>>>     SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
>>>     -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
>>>      
>>>     My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>      
>>>     From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>  On Behalf Of 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>     Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 9:12 AM
>>>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>     Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>>>      
>>>     Also, be aware that according to David Goodwin's blog post about the 
>>> closure of AppleVis that the site will go from read only to removed 
>>> completely after August 31, 2024. 
>>>      
>>>     Allen Lemly 
>>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>>      
>>>             On Jul 28, 2024, at 11:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>              
>>>             The site is read only now, the contact form is no longer 
>>> available, e.g. it says 
>>>              
>>>             Status message
>>>             Sorry… This form is closed to new submissions.
>>>              
>>>             Having said this, if any of the Applevis people read this, it 
>>> might be an idea to approach Apple directly and ask if they would 
>>> host/maintain the site and by doing so allow the editorial team and other 
>>> contributors to continue.
>>>              
>>>             From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > 
>>>             Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 1:47 PM
>>>             To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>             Subject: Re: Applevis Site
>>>              
>>>             https://www.applevis.com/contact
>>>              
>>>              
>>>             Richard, USA
>>>             "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
>>> touch with it." - Jane Wagner from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life 
>>> in the Universe.
>>>              
>>>             My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>             Sent from my iPad Mini 6
>>>             
>>>             
>>>             
>>>                     On Jul 27, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Juan hernandez 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>                     
>>>                     Hi All,
>>>                      
>>>                     Can someone help me out by giving me David goodwin’s 
>>> email, or some contact method? Or maybe one of the other editorial team 
>>> emails? I’d like to discuss applevis.com and future hosting and running of 
>>> the site
>>>                      
>>>                     Best,
>>>                      
>>>                     Juan
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