The idea in principle is great but I guess in time the interaction between on stage speech and the AI speech will be synchronised in other words that one doesn't overlap the other as it were.

Att least we're getting somewherre now withtthe assistiv Look and Ttell tech.

Tony

On 17/12/2024 19:07, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You will soon be able to get live AI descriptions via the Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses (at least here in North Amwerica), but they already said your glasses battery will last about 30 minutes doing that so whenever this is possible you better bring a large external battery which of course would not be a big deal if that is all it took. The estimate of GalaPro by the way was right on with respect to battery usage, I had my iPhone 16 Pro charged to 100% before the show and I was at 84% afterwards, they say to expect about 15% of battery usage.

*From:*[email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Tony Sweeney
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2024 10:38 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: GalaPro - a fantastic new experience when attending a live performance

On top of all that Sieghar I was just listening to a  demo of SeeingAI and describing video.

Imagine if that app or other in time could describe live theatre in real time that would be awesome indeed.

Tony

On 17/12/2024 17:49, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

    Hello Tony,

    I only used the service th eone time when my wife and I were
    attending The Lion King musical in Toronto a couple of weeks ago.

    What I liked is the same I like about a described movie namely
    that as a completely blind person I know what is going on. I lost
    my sight at the age of 16 and even though that is going to be 41
    years ago this coming January, I always have been somebody who
    continues to visualize many things. Especially a performance like
    the Lion King is highly visual and sitting there and only hear the
    songs and the dialogue would be enjoyable, but it was a lot more
    enjoyable getting descriptions about what all the animals were
    doing, about the set and some of the costumes. As I said, this
    service is I believe relatively new to the several theatres in
    Toronto run by Mirvish Productions and they did not play the
    additional descriptions prior to the start of the performance
    where even more details are given about the costumes, characters
    and the set. I still haven’t take the time to listen to it now
    that we have already seen the musical, but I still plan to do so.
    As GalaPro said in the reply I received from them, don’t hesitate
    to contact your local production company or companies or ask your
    blind organisation to do so and encourage them to contact GalaPro
    to find out what they would have to do to offer the service.

    Best regards,

    Sieghard

    *From:*[email protected] <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Tony Sweeney
    *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2024 2:11 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: GalaPro - a fantastic new experience when attending
    a live performance

    As a matter of interest I shared the GalaPro news with the Irish
    national organisation for the blind Vision Ireland who hadn't
    heard of the service and they were very impressed indeed.

    I would love to attend such a described live show especially in my
    adopted city of Dublin or even travel to other counties too if
    desired.

    Is it possible for you to let us know what in particular you liked
    abvout described shows that you attended?

    Tony

    On 17/12/2024 02:40, Cris Ali wrote:

        I wish they have more cities in Europe. I travel to Europe
        almost every Summer for two weeks vacation and would love to
        attend live shows there. I have been to London, Paris, Madrid,
        Lisbon, Rome, Oslo, Amsterdam and many other European cities.
        I always wished to go to described live Shows and
        performances. This app is a great start.

        Follow me on X @ibnalbalad




            On Dec 12, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
            <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

            

            I was wrong with respect to assuming that “London” was
            London, Ontario, Canada instead of London, United Kingdom.

            As I said, I wrote to GalaPro and received the below reply
            this morning:

            *From:*Betsy Selman [email protected]
            *Sent:* Thursday, December 12, 2024 9:18 AM
            *To:* Sieghard Weitzel [email protected]
            *Subject:* RE: Your locations

            Hello Sieghard,

            Thank you for the feedback, and I’m so glad you were able
            to enjoy /The Lion King./

            London in the app is indeed London, United Kingdom. I can
            see where the confusion comes from and we will work on
            updating the website language.

            If there are any other theaters where you regularly attend
            shows and would like them to install GalaPro, you can have
            them reach out to the same email address
            ([email protected]) and we can send them
            information on pricing and technical specifications.

            Thank you,

            Betsy

            --

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            *From:*[email protected] <[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sieghard
            Weitzel
            *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2024 2:59 PM
            *To:* [email protected]
            *Subject:* RE: GalaPro - a fantastic new experience when
            attending a live performance

            I wrote to GalaPro for clarification, but I assume it does
            refer to London, Ontario because in their description they
            say among other things:

            Our product is used in the leading Broadway theaters and
            has been enjoyed by thousands of users across North America.

            Since it mentions “across North America” I assume that
            currently the US and Canada is where they provide their
            services.

            *From:*[email protected] <[email protected]>
            *On Behalf Of *CJ & AA MAY
            *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2024 1:05 PM
            *To:* [email protected]
            *Subject:* RE: GalaPro - a fantastic new experience when
            attending a live performance

            Yes, I’m pretty sure you are right, Tony, in that the
            theatre mentioned was in Canada.

            Alison

            *From:*[email protected] <[email protected]>
            *On Behalf Of *Tony Sweeney
            *Sent:* 11 December 2024 21:04
            *To:* [email protected]
            *Subject:* Re: GalaPro - a fantastic new experience when
            attending a live performance

            Alison,

            I don't think that it is yet available in the UK or
            Ireland but the app is certainly available on the Ireland
            app store so fingers crossed.

            On reflection I feel the London mentioned in the article
            may well be in Ontariono Canada and not as I previously
            thouught, the UK.

            The GalaPro people certainly have to be applauded for
            their initiative for sure.

            Tony, Dublin Ireland

            On 11/12/2024 20:56, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

                I was interested to read about this. I have heard
                about it, but not actually had a chance to try it out.

                But it has to be simpler than queueing to borrow
                special headphones which only work if you are sat in
                the right area of the cinema or theatre and which the
                theatre or cinema has to keep clean and in good repair.

                Also almost every time I have used the headphones,
                they have varied and I’ve needed to be shown where the
                controls are.

                I do hope this service becomes standard.

                Alison

                Actuial *:*[email protected]
                <[email protected]>
                <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
                *Sieghard Weitzel
                *Sent:* 09 December 2024 21:38
                *To:* [email protected]
                *Subject:* GalaPro - a fantastic new experience when
                attending a live performance

                Hello,

                I wanted to share a recent experience I had attending
                the musical "The Lion King" at the Princess of Whales
                theatre in Toronto which is one of several theatres
                operated by Mirvish Productions.

                And before people press delete or post irate messages
                why I am posting this to the Viphone list, I am doing
                so because the main point of this post is to review
                and make people aware of an app called GalaPro which
                provides audio descriptions for live shows/musicals in
                a number of cities in the US, in London and for Canada
                in Toronto at the Mirvish Productions theatres.

                Below is the description from the Gala Pro website
                <https://www.galapro.com/>:

                Entertainment For Everyone

                Imagine travelling to a new city and enjoying a local
                event or show in your native language. Now, imagine
                enjoying closed captions or audio description

                at any performance you would like to attend without
                having to wait for the one scheduled accessible show.
                Our revolutionary, patent pending, app enhances

                the audience experience by delivering individual
                closed captioning and audio description to the user's
                own mobile device. All content is provided in real

                time, using speech recognition technology, developed
                specifically for live performances and shows. With
                GalaPro everyone can enjoy the show at every single

                performance.

                Our technology is designed to provide an inclusive
                experience that is discreet for the user and does not
                disturb the surrounding audience members. Our

                product is used in the leading Broadway theaters and
                has been enjoyed by thousands of users across North
                America. GalaPro is a solution for everyone, from

                seasoned opera and theater lovers, to travelers who
                need accessible solutions, for film festivals or films
                on your own TV, to exhibitions and museums or

                even live concerts, GalaPro’s innovative technology
                will provide all content on demand. Go ahead and see
                any show in the GalaPro portfolio! GalaPro will make
                sure you understand it all.

                When I bought my tickets which I did by phone because
                Mirvish Productions also offers a complimentary free
                ticket for a companion, in my case my wife, I was told
                about this app. It is a straight forward process, you
                download the GalaPro app and follow the simple
                instructions when you get to the theatre. These
                instructions basically are that when you are at the
                theatre you open the app, select your city and the
                show you are attending, in my case "Toronto" and "The
                Lion King".

                Then you are instructed to turn on Airplane mode, but
                leave Wi-Fi enabled which happens by default anyways.

                Then you go to Settings > Wi-Fi and connect to the
                GalaPro network and enter the password which is
                provided in the instructions, I think in my case it
                was simply "galaPro1".

                Once you are connected you go back to the app and tap
                "Next", I think at thgis point I hd to select if I
                wanted audio descritions or one of the other options
                which are subtitles and I think there is also an
                option to hear the dialogue in other languages (didn't
                really explore that).

                Once you complete the steps a page loads and your
                phone does display this in landscape mode even if you
                have orientation locked, but essentially it only has a
                "back" button, it then says "Audio on" and there was
                one other thing I can't remember, but you now have
                nothing more to do except wait.

                As soon as the show starts, audio descriptions
                automatically start and I can only say it was an
                amazing experience.

                One more thing I'd like to mention is that it will at
                some point say that this only works with wired
                headsets, Bluetooth is not supported. Of course you
                also want to listen to the music and everything else
                so as usual, I just used my wired Earpods and I just
                put in the right earbud lightly which allowed me to
                hear the audio descriptions but this also did not
                block the sound from the stage significantly. Just as
                in movies audio descriptions are of course not
                constant, sometimes minutes go by with nothing until a
                new scene or background is described.

                I did find that while some costumes were described,
                there could have maybe been more detail and I provided
                some feedback to Mirvish Productions regarding this.
                Below are two replies I received today, we were at the
                show last Thursday evening, but I didn't write to them
                until the weekend since we had an almost 12 hour
                travel day to fly back to Vancouver and up to our
                little town in Northwestern BC on Friday. In the first
                email the rep I spoke with previously thanks me for my
                feedback, in the second email she gives me a bit more
                information and a link where apparently I can hear a
                lot more details about the scenery and characters.

                I included her two emails below and here is what is
                said about this on the website under the “audio
                descriptions” section:

                In an effort to be economical with audio description
                during the performance, we provide pre-show notes that
                describe the scenery and characters in detail.

                These pre-show notes are played on loop in the
                30-minutes prior to the performance.

                They did not do this at the Princess of Whales
                Theatre, but as you can read in her email, they will
                make sure this will happen in the future. Anybody who
                wants to listen to this and get a sense of what it is
                like can do so by clicking this link
                
<https://lionking-com.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/LionKing_BroadwayOnline.mp3>.

                I certainly encourage anybody who may plan to attend a
                musical to check with their theatre if they offer
                audio descriptions via the GalaPro app. Supported
                cities at this point are:

                New York

                London

                Washington DC Metro Area

                Toronto (only city in Canada, supported shows are
                "Come from Away", Moulin Rouge" and "The Lion King")

                Richmond

                Baltimore

                Philadelphia

                Providence

                Los Angeles

                Seattle

                Boston

                San Francisco

                Des Moines

                Pasadena

                Dallas

                From: [email protected]
                [email protected]

                Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 12:09 PM

                To: Sieghard Weitzel [email protected]

                Subject: RE: Feedback on GalaPro and audio
                descriptions [CSE: aFS10V, TKT: TbXUTg]

                Hello Sieghard,

                Thank you for taking the time to share your wonderful
                experience attending The Lion King and for your
                thoughtful feedback about the GalaPro audio
                description service. We are delighted to hear that the
                technology enhanced your theatrical experience and
                made the performance more accessible.

                Your observations about the audio descriptions are
                incredibly valuable. We appreciate your specific
                suggestions regarding more comprehensive costume
                descriptions, which we have passed along to our
                production team and the GalaPro service providers.
                Your insights can help improve the experience for
                future visually impaired audience members.

                We are proud to offer technologies like GalaPro that
                make our performances more inclusive and enjoyable for
                all patrons. Your enthusiasm and appreciation mean a
                great deal to us, and we're thrilled that you and your
                wife have made Mirvish productions a part of your
                Toronto visits.

                Thank you for being such a wonderful patron and for
                helping us continually improve our accessibility services.

                Warm regards,

                Becky

                Audience Services

                Mirvish Productions

                322 King Street West

                Suite 325

                Toronto, ON, M5V 1J2

                ________________________________________

                Hello Sieghard,

                Right after I had responded to you, I heard back from
                our GalaPro representative.

                She advised that you can access a recording of
                pre-show notes that describe the scenery and
                characters in detail.

                You can access it here on this page -

                https://lionking.com/accessibility/

                Please scroll to the section for Audio Description.

                The link is here
                
https://lionking-com.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/LionKing_BroadwayOnline.mp3

                I will also make sure that this recording is running
                pre-show at our theatre.

                Thank you again!!

                Warm regards,

                Becky

                Audience Services

                Mirvish Productions

                322 King Street West

                Suite 325

                Toronto, ON, M5V 1J2

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