I really do not use them enough to justify twice the cost to replace my phone, 
i.e. an SE or another Pro. 

Now, I use Seeing A.I. a whole lot, has made my mail way easier than just using 
my Optacon, like I had to do before, when I lived alone.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 6:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor

That was how this thread started and nobody really answered it.

Essentially for a blind user not interested in taking pictures is there an 
advantage to the latest iPhone camera system that have Macro and telephoto 
capabilities, as these are not likely to be in a new lower cost  iPhone. Can an 
AIRA or Be My Eyes agent even take advantage of the multiple lenses on iPhones, 
or do these have to be controlled by the iPhone user. 
Also, has anybody that has a iPhone PRO model regularly used the LIDAR 
functions to solve issues?
I am especially interested in anybody that got an iPhone 15 or 16  after having 
an iPhone SE if they felt the additional cost provided any useful features.



        On Feb 14, 2025, at 2:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:

        So what does an IPhone 16 Pro have that this rumored SE4 have and why’s 
it so much less expensive?
        Danney
         
        From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]> 
        Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 9:37 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor
         
        According to both ChatGPT and Copilot: 
        As of now, Apple CEO Tim Cook has not officially announced a new iPhone 
SE. However, he has teased an upcoming product launch scheduled for Wednesday, 
February 19, 2025. In a recent post on X (formerly Twitter), Cook stated, “Get 
ready to meet the newest member of the family,” accompanied by an Apple logo 
animation.   While the specific product has not been confirmed, industry 
analysts widely anticipate that this event will unveil the next-generation 
iPhone SE. Expected features for the new model include:
                       •             A design similar to the iPhone 14, 
featuring a notched display and the removal of the home button in favor of Face 
ID.
                       •             A larger 6.1-inch OLED screen, replacing 
the previous 4.7-inch display.
                       •             Transition to a USB-C port, aligning with 
recent regulatory requirements.
                       •             Introduction of a customizable Action 
button.
                       •             An upgraded single rear camera with 
enhanced sensors.
                       •             Internally, the device is expected to 
feature an A18 chip, 8GB of RAM, and Apple’s first in-house 5G modem, though it 
may not support mmWave 5G.
                       •             The starting price is anticipated to be 
around $500, with 128GB of base storage.
         
        There has been speculation about a potential rebranding to “iPhone 
16E,” but it is more likely that the SE branding will continue.  Please note 
that these details are based on industry rumors and leaks, and the official 
specifications will be confirmed during Apple’s event on February 19.
         
         
        Richard, USA
        "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John 
Wesley
         
        My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 
         
        (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
         



                On Feb 13, 2025, at 4:32 PM, Richard Turner 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                
                Where did Tim Cook ppost this?
                 
                 
                 
                Richard, USA,
                "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are 
about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two 
things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be 
taught how to fly." 
                -- Barbara J. Winter.
                 
                My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 
<https://www.turner42.com/> 
                 
                From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long
                Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 4:22 PM
                To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
                Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor
                 
                Its coming next Wednesday Tim Cook posted about it. 
                 
                 
                Dennis Long 
                Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max




                        On Feb 13, 2025, at 7:18 PM, Michael Irons 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                        I never believe any rumors that come out and I am in 
agreement with what you all were saying in that talking about this stuff before 
it’s released and talking about when it is gonna be released as a total waste 
of time. I just knew that the iPhone SE four was going to be coming out and I 
wanted to make sure that I got a hold of an SE3 before the latest EC came out 
so I could have access and use the home button a bit longer. If you are 
wondering why I might want to do that that is because right now I’m just not 
able to face Face ID and deal with setting it up. It might put a frown on all 
of your faces, but I am just doing what I feel. I need to do regardless of what 
anyone thinks about it.
                        Sent from my iPhone




                                On Feb 13, 2025, at 4:25 PM, 'Richard Turner' 
via VIPhone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                                I knew exactly what you meant, and did not 
miss the sarcasm. I suspect others did not either. I was just agreeing that all 
this bother about stuff before its released is kind of a waste of time.
                                 
                                 
                                 
                                Richard, USA
                                "While striving for perfection, let us do what 
is possible." -- John Wesley
                                 
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<https://www.turner42.com/> 
                                 
                                (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) c
                                 




                                        On Feb 13, 2025, at 2:21 PM, Alan Lemly 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                                        Richard, 
                                        
                                        That's exactly the point I was 
attempting to make but I guess my sarcasm was missed. Some on these lists seem 
overly concerned with promoting products and their supposed features before the 
products are even released. I was replying to one such post stating 
unequivocally that the SE fourth generation was being released on Tuesday 
February 11th. 
                                        
                                        Alan Lemly 
                                        Sent from my iPhone
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        

                                        On Feb 13, 2025, at 10:46 AM, 'Richard 
Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> wrote:

                                         

                                        ON www.apple.com 
<http://www.apple.com/>  there is no mention of an iPhone SE 4, the latest SE 
listed is the SE 3.

                                        This is why I ignore rumors.

                                        Just wait for Apple's official 
announcement.

                                         

                                         

                                        Richard, USA,

                                        "When you come to the edge of all the 
light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, 
faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid 
to stand on or you will be taught how to fly."

                                        -- Barbara J. Winter.

                                         

                                        My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

                                         

                                        -----Original Message-----

                                        From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

                                        Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 8:38 
AM

                                        To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 

                                        Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

                                         

                                        Hi Dennis,

                                         

                                        I must have missed Apple's announcement 
about the release of the iPhone SE 4th generation. Perhaps you could share it 
with the list or is it possible that Mark Gurman was wrong?

                                         

                                        Alan Lemly

                                         

                                        -----Original Message-----

                                        From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long

                                        Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2025 2:11 AM

                                        To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 

                                        Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

                                         

                                        It will be released Tuesday.  Mark 
Gurman isn't usually wrong.  Moreover these reports aren't gonna say something 
that critical and be wrong.  So watch Apple.com on Tuesday.

                                         

                                        -----Original Message-----

                                        From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold

                                        Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 5:29 PM

                                        To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 

                                        Subject: RE: iPhone SE latest rumor

                                         

                                        I am considering an SE4 if they 
actually come out.

                                         

                                        Carolyn Arnold

                                        Carolyn ArnoldCarolyn Arnold

                                         

                                        Carolyn Arnold

                                         

                                         

                                        -----Original Message-----

                                        From: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>  [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Penny Reeder

                                        Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 10:45 
AM

                                        To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 

                                        Subject: Re: iPhone SE latest rumor

                                         

                                        I have been waiting for the SE, too -- 
mostly because of my hope that its smaller size will be a more comfortable fit 
for my hand than the huge 16. I am worried though that i shouldn't wait a lot 
longer to replaze my XR, because of anticipated tarrif-related higher cost. 
Penny Sent from my iPhone

                                         

                                        On Feb 8, 2025, at 10:34 AM, Jonathan 
Cohn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

                                         

                                        I heard a rumor today that the iPhone 
SE update will come out next week with no press release.

                                        Obviously just a rumor, but I have been 
holding on to my slowish iPhone SE second generation so that I can  have a full 
choice of latest phones.

                                        Is there a blind users buyers guide to 
the iPhones to help decide  if:

                                        1. LIDAR add aa real advantage.

                                        2. Do newer cameras improve OCR

                                        3. Do newer camera help with Be My Eyes 
and AIRA?

                                        4. Should I get a cheaper phone and 
spend the money saved on a pair of smart glasses?

                                         

                                        I know folks love their meta glasses, 
but I would rather pay a little more and not  have Meta capturing my life, but 
alternatives still appear to be in the rumor stage.

                                        Obviously, until the specifications of 
the SE are out no decision can be made.

                                        My main complaints with my current 
phone is it takes about 5 seconds for a Siri response and I don’t believe it is 
my network, and 40 minutes of walking navigation takes about 60% of my battery 
life.

                                        Warmly,

                                        Jonathan

                                         

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