Hi David, This is something I've seen from many blind people as well. But, usually Windows users. iTunes on Windows has gotten a lot better but, It seems to me to run so much smoother with Voiceover on a Mac. And I don't think this is my Mac bias either. I just think iTunes is much more stable on the Mac platform.
Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:38 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > I would agree with you. Unfortunately, several blind people on this list > repeatedly state a level of dislike of iTunes ranging from dislike to hatred. > I personally do not understand the feelings. I switched to iTunes when I > purchased my original iPhone 4 and learned to use it. After that, I found it > easier to use than WinAmp or Windows Media Player. The fact is, once we learn > a particular product, anything else is automatically much harder to use > because it is different. It doesn't matter if the new product is better or > easier once we learn it. The initial reaction is almost always extremely > negative, and many people are unable to get past that initial reaction. > > Considering the above, I have learned, based on many negative attacks at me > for suggesting it, not to recommend, or even suggest, iTunes as the most > reasonable solution. > > Again, for me, iTunes is one of the better, if not the best, media players > for both Windows and Mac, and I have a difficult time understanding why so > many blind people struggle with, or refuse to use, the program. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26/04/2013, at 11:07, "Lauren Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think Ray should install iTunes on his computer then give AT&T tech >> support a phone call. This will prevent any negative feelings during this >> introductory stage of iPhone ownership. There are so many options and steps >> necessary to setup an iDevice that it can quickly get overwhelming and >> incredibly frustrating. >> >> LS >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:05 PM >> Subject: Re: what's in the box >> >> >> You will not get service until an activated SIM card is installed. That >> said, you will most likely need to activate the iPhone before you get >> coverage, even if a SIM card is installed. The iPhone can either be >> activated using a computer and iTunes, or during the set-up process on the >> phone. I do not know if you need Wifi for the activation process as I have >> always used iTunes, or had it activated at the carrier store. I find it >> quicker and easier to use iTunes as I am also able to restore my back-up on >> to the new iPhone at the same time. Besides, the process is much quicker on >> the computer compared with using iCloud on the iPhone for restoration. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 26/04/2013, at 8:30, "Dan Beaver GMail" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It is hard to say. Mine said no service until it was configured even >>> though it did not need a SIMM. >>> >>> Not being familiar with GSM usage I feel unqualified to answer this one. >>> >>> Anyone else know what is going on? >>> >>> Dan Beaver >>> >>> From: Ray T. Mahorney >>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: what's in the box >>> >>> there was not one of those diddle sticks in the box either. The phone >>> reports no service which does not mean no sim or does it? >>> >>> >>> Ray T. Mahorney >>> WA4WGA >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Dan Beaver GMail >>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 19:09 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: what's in the box >>> >>> When you look at it be aware that on the 5 the SIMM card tray is very very >>> flush with the edge of the phone. In fact, on mine I can not feel it at >>> all. >>> >>> The way it is ejected is by sticking a paper clip end or something small >>> like that into the very small hole next to the tray and pressing it firmly >>> inward. I do mean firmly too. I was afraid I was going to damage my phone >>> it took so much pressure. >>> >>> Once you do this the tray will pop out and the card will be held there if >>> it is in the phone. >>> >>> Good luck and have fun. >>> >>> Dan Beaver >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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