I went to the ap store, typed in audio archery and there it was for free. Did
it Friday.
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From: Kristeen Hughes
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Apple just approved All Access: Talking Menus & More
I missed how one can get this program. Can someone repost that information?
Kristeen Hughes
On May 31, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Cara Quinn <modelc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alan, actually a mobile app is a computer program. App is short for
application. There's no difference. :)
Even web apps these days are really full-fledged programs…
Just a quick FYI… :)
Have a terrific evening!
Smiles,
Cara :)
On May 30, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Wow Todd! That makes me tired just from reading all this. I guess I just
assumed that because it was an app that it would be less of a headache then
writing a hole computer program. Now I know!
Thanks for all your efforts on behalf of the blind.
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From: Todd Bernhard
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Todd Bernhard
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Apple just approved All Access: Talking Menus & More
Thank you everyone for the great, constructive feedback. We've learned a
lot and I wanted to give you an update. I just submitted an update to Apple
based on all the comments received so far!
First, I've built over 80 apps, for iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Mac OS and
even Samsung Bada. This is the most complex one I've ever built. In addition
the emphasis on voiceover, the app is also meant for the Deaf, Non-Verbal and
Non-English-speaking audience, as it can speak the order to the waitstaff,
independently of voiceover. The app is accessing four different servers from
three different companies. One server, in Switzerland, is for the logo
scanning, one in Rochester, NY (soon to migrate to Amazon's cloud servers) is
our own with our internal database with photos and premium customer info,
another in Las Vegas is for the text-to-speech hints (which you do not need if
you are using voiceover) and the last one, in San Francisco, is for the
restaurant/business/menu database. That service and server is provided by
Locu.com.
That last one is where we have the following issues. First, thanks to the
popularity of the app, we went over their previously undisclosed limit of 1,000
requests per day, around 8am Pacific time. That is why some of you saw the app
crashing. Since that provider doesn't open until 9am, I had to keep calling
until they answered to get our limit raised. (I asked for 100,000!) It was
raised and I've made an edit to the app (for the next update) that will display
a message instead of crashing if that ever happens again!
Next, is the issue of no menus. That was probably because their server
offers info for more than just restaurants. For example, they have hair
salons, spas, etc. I'm changing the app to just show restaurants, by default,
and we may re-enable other businesses in a future update, but because it was
causing confusion, I don't think it should default to "all businesses". That
other info is valuable, but the confusion seems to be the bigger problem.
Regarding stale data, I have noticed this and complained about it, too. I
think the provider's emphasis, understandably, is on growing their database and
there is less focus on pruning out old info. They are a startup, too, and I
can relate to prioritizing resources. But I think we will create a button that
lets you report old data and then we can blacklist it from the app, even if it
hasn't been removed from that provider's database. To be honest, it's quite
remarkable that they've built this menu system, without requiring restaurants
to do anything. They search for websites, and even scan paper menus and have
over one million such menus now. They have signed deals with GoDaddy and Yelp
so we're in good company. And they are excited to be part of this accessible
effort.
Re voiceover and accessibility. The specific feedback was great, and I
believe I've made all of the changes. I've used the app repeatedly in
voiceover mode and I think I've eliminated everything people were running into.
For the technically inclined, you might be interested to know that there are at
least 109 specific accessibility commands in the app source code. The problem
wasn't really the lack of voiceover commands but that we were layering views on
top of previous ones, and that meant in some views, if there wasn't another
accessible element displayed, the ones below it would "peak through." That has
been fixed.
I will change how you edit settings, like manual address versus GPS, as
this was confusing even to sighted folks!
Regarding finding the app, I sent the initial email shortly after Apple
notified us it was approved, and it takes some time for apps to show up,
especially worldwide. Nobody should have a problem finding it now, either by
searching for all access or search for blind menus or use this
link:http://bit.ly/AllAccessMenus
For a restaurant to be included in the app, or to update their existing
info, they can either contact us directly, which is preferred, or they can
contact Locu.com who is the menu database provider. There is no charge to be
listed and no charge to have a menu included. Both Locu and our firm, All
Access, offer premium features where we plan to earn revenue. Locu charges
restaurants to upload their own photos, whereas our focus is on letting users
upload their photos, via a scavenger hunt style contest, in exchange for gift
cards from the restaurant. We also charge for the Logo Launcher scanning
feature, and for the ability to add custom deals (like groupons) and other
custom buttons.
Lastly, the app is for more than menus. The app will provide a link to
directions via Apple Maps, twitter, facebook, weather, and more. Are there
other items you would like to have?
Thanks again, and please send feedback. It's probably easiest to use the
feedback button in the app. I'll let you know when the update is approved. I
hope you'll give that version a chance.
Todd@ToddBernhard
Cofounder, AllAccessMenus.com
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