Haha,

Keep in mind, pricing is often influenced by hype.  Companies don't want to 
under value their product.  Its easier to lower a price than to raise one.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Rose Combs <[email protected]> wrote:

> One thing missing as some have said was the price.  It always annoys me when 
> price is missing because it tells me that once we see it we won't want it.  I 
> don't want it but, price is an important fact and it seems the more expensive 
> the less likely there will be a price tag that we can see. 
>  
> I wish all manufactures would state pricing along with their hype. 
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: new accessible phone for the blind.
>  
> Hi Listers,
>  
> I think most of what is relevant has been said already so since this is not 
> really iOS related I hope this is not going to turn into one of these threads 
> which goes on for a week with hundreds of messages where everybody agrees or 
> disagrees that this is a good thing or not.
>  
> I think as more or less accomplished iDevice users most people on this list 
> feel that such a specialized phone and provider are not for them, but as 
> several members pointed out, there are many blind people who can’t use or 
> don’t want to use something as feature rich as an iPhone. The article does 
> state that Odin Mobile is an MVNO on the T-Mobil network so nation-wide 
> coverage is as good as that of T-Mobil which should be reasonable for most 
> people.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Timothy Emmons
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: new accessible phone for the blind.
>  
> You're right Fred. like I said with Chuck just a second ago, I tend to forget 
> sometimes, that that is the case, but there are those that just can't get or 
> grasp the iPhone concept and it's Ok. I am curious to know how much this 
> would run somebody and how readily available it's going to be, can you get it 
> right alongside an iPhone, as a choice through providers, what are the big 
> pricepoints, etc. I deifnitely need my afternoon coffee, I almost made a big 
> mess with this but you're right. Thanks again Fred. Talk to you soon. 
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Fred Olver wrote:
>  
> 
> Timothy, although I agree with you in principle, I must say that undoubtedly 
> there is a nitch for this type of phone, say for folks who decide the iPhone 
> is not their cup of tea.
>  
> Fred Olver
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Timothy Emmons
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: new accessible phone for the blind.
>  
> I saw this and I'm in agreement with everybody here, on this. This is the 
> question I pondered too. Why try to reinvent the wheel and in doing so, we 
> lose all the funcionality we already have with the iDevices. Why reinvent the 
> wheel as it were. I could go on and on about this, and for some it may be a 
> good idea, but you lose a lot of the usability, iMessaging, facetime, the 
> upcoming Bard app that  will be coming soon, among other things, it just 
> seems like overkill or reinventing of a wheel that doesn't need to be 
> reinvented, but that's my take. I may be missing something today and that's 
> Ok, but I saw this earlier and I know a lot of these things like this don't 
> normally take off greatly here. But, that's my spin on it. I am no longer on 
> twitter or facebook at the moment, life and a hacker had fun with aprts of my 
> account, so I stopped both of them for the time being but feel free to email 
> me if you want to chat, and who knows I may do a blog at some point, I tend 
> to go on about a lot of accessibility stuff and music and the like so who 
> knows, but I digress. I'm curious to see what everybody else thinks but I had 
> to say hmm on that one. Anyway, take care folks and talk to you soon. I've 
> rambled enough. We'll see how this comes around and how well it takes off, 
> I'm curious as I always am about new ideas and technology.   
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
>  
> 
> My concern is and always has been with “devices, software, etc. for the 
> blind, is that they are always separate and never equal. I have often found 
> that developemtns like this never keep up with mainstream technology.
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Maria & Joe Chapman
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: new accessible phone for the blind.
> Hi.  I'm in australia so it's kind of irrelevant for me at the moment but I 
> agree with you.  I would lose i messageing and that wouldn't be cool.  not to 
> mention face time and all the hundreds of dollars I've probably spent on apps 
> over time.
>           regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> email:
> [email protected]
> check out 
> www.95-the-mix.com
> where we play lots of great music
> On 07/06/2013, at 4:13 AM, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> No thanks, I am happy with my iPhone, an odd the shelf device that does 
> everything this phone claims to do... And much more. 
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Fred Olver <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> America's First Mobile Smartphone & Service for The Blind and Visually 
> Impaired.
> 
> PRNewswire.
> June 5, 2013.
> 
> Project RAY Ltd., developer of the first smartphone specially designed for 
> eye-free operation, and Odin Mobile, the nationwide provider of cellular 
> service        dedicated to providing mobile communication services to the 
> blind and visually impaired, today announced America's first full mobile 
> service for the blind and visually impaired. 
> 
> "This collaboration will provide the blind the ability to access smartphone 
> technology through a unique user interface that emphasizes simplicity and 
> ease of use," said Robert Felgar , general manager of Odin Mobile. "Odin 
> Mobile is excited to partner with Project RAY to make advanced mobile 
> technology more accessible to the blind." 
> 
> Features of America's first full mobile service include:
> 
> . Odin Mobile's full telephone service including voice, text and data, with 
> customized eye-free setup and services. 
> 
> . Affordable smartphone developed by Project RAY specially for the blind, 
> from its unique operating system & eye-free operation to specialized built-in 
> apps and content. 
> 
> . Multiple built-in services for the blind and visually impaired within a 
> single affordable device and one unified user experience - including voice 
> calls, email, messaging contact list services, calendar, GPS, advanced WEB 
> remote assistance, voice recorder, panic and emergency services, color 
> identification, pictures transcription, banknote recognition, and more. 
> 
> . Advanced communication and lifestyle services such as book and magazine 
> subscriptions built into the off-the-shelf device. 
> 
> . Unique operating system and user interface specially developed for eye-free 
> operation including single gesture access to frequently used numbers and 
> functions, one-hand operation, homogeneous interface across multiple system 
> functions and services.
> 
> "Together with Odin Mobile, and with the initial and invaluable support of 
> Qualcomm's Wireless Reach program, we are excited to bring the affordable, 
> lifestyle changing benefits of smartphone technology and services to millions 
> of blind and visually impaired people throughout the United States," said 
> Boaz Zilberman , Founder & CEO of Project RAY. "Our RAY smartphone combined 
> with Odin Mobile's full-cellular services for the blind and visually 
> impaired, will finally bring to this important community the same services 
> available to the mainstream full-sighted community."
> 
> Project RAY and Qualcomm Wireless Reach collaborated on the first trial and 
> commercial launch of the RAY device in Israel in early 2013. As one of the 
> project's primary funders, Qualcomm provided technical advice, support, 
> funding and in-kind contributions in support of the development of a device 
> that successfully promotes independence and social inclusion for people with 
> disabilities.
> 
> "We are proud to work with Project RAY and support their objective of 
> bringing a mobile device to market that supports blind and visually impaired 
> people so they can access resources and information independently," said 
> Kristin Atkins , Senior Director of Government Affairs for Qualcomm. "Our 
> team at Qualcomm Israel worked closely with Project RAY on the operational 
> and product efforts of the first RAY device enabling independence and a 
> richer social life for users by providing an all-in-one, independent-living 
> companion capable of eye-free input, text-to-speech, access to content, 
> navigation, label recognition, augmented reality and integration with social 
> networks. This is a great example of how working with partners, we can help 
> improve people's lives with the latest technology." 
> 
> America's first full mobile service provided by Odin Mobile, including RAY, 
> the world's first mobile device specially developed for the blind and 
> visually impaired, will be officially launched at the 2013 M-Enabling Global 
> Summit organized in cooperation with FCC and ITU on June 6-7 in Washington. 
> 
> About Odin Mobile: 
> Based in Rockville, Maryland, Odin Mobile is a T-Mobile MVNO focused on 
> providing unparalleled mobile service to the visually impaired. Every aspect 
> of its innovative service is designed to make it easier for the visually 
> impaired to take full advantage of mobile technology. Its mission is to 
> narrow the gap between the extent to which the visually impaired and general 
> populations use mobile services. For more information, please visit 
> www.odinmobile.com.
> 
> About Project RAY:
> Project RAY Ltd. develop and market breakthrough accessibility solutions for 
> blind and visually impaired people. The flagship product, the RAY smartphone, 
> is an integrated mobile device developed especially for eye-free usage. It 
> features a common user interface across all system functions, apps and 
> services including voice calls, email, messaging, calendar, GPS, advanced WEB 
> remote assistance, voice recorder, panic and emergency services, and more. 
> RAY leverages cutting edge mobile technologies to afford all blind and 
> visually impaired people the lifestyle improvements we all take for granted 
> in today's smartphone world: greater independence, spontaneity and mobile 
> accessibility to services we use daily. For more information, please visit 
> www.project-ray.com
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