Hi, Maybe Apple is turning out iPhone 4 and 4Ss but, I would be surprised if those were headed for Western markets. I could imagine Apple still turning a good profit on them in parts of Asia, Africa, and South America though.
Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, it doesn't look like we'll be changing each others minds, so I think > we'll just have to agree to disagree. > > From what I've read, the 4 and 4S are still being manufactured, or at least > they were a few months ago when Apple added another manufacturer to their low > end iPhone supply chain. > > Modern companies don't keep vast inventories of stock around any more. > Storing stock is extremely expensive Companies try to optimize their supply > chain as much as possible. I'm not sure if they still use terms like just in > time manufacturing, but the science or art of not having any more inventory > around than absolutely necessary has been around for decades. I think it's > more likely they were just out of stock of the iPhone 4 than it was they > weren't manufacturing the iPhone 4 anymore. > > In managing their supply chain, Apple tries to predict iPhone sales. For > example, Apple has cut it's iPhone manufacturing a bit to track with the > slightly sluggish sales caused by smart phone fatigue in the marketplace. > > On 09/08/2013 10:15 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote: >> Hi Christopher, >> >> I wouldn't mind betting with you that between Apple and its re-sellers they >> do have way more than a year's worth of stock especially since Apple sales >> have been seriously going down. For the past 3 months, I've been getting >> text messages from Bell Canada trying to get me to upgrade my phone at a >> good price. That's only because they have a stock of IP5 to get rid of >> before the 5S comes out and they do that every summer before the new model >> arrives. >> >> About 6 months after the IP 4S came out, a friend of mine dropped his IP4 in >> water and ruined it. He wanted to change it for another IP4 but they didn't >> have any more new ones so they offered him a refurbished one or a very good >> deal on a 4S. Had they been still manufacturing the 4, they would have been >> able to get him a new one rather than giving him such a good deal on the 4S. >> >> >> They probably still have parts to repair the 4 and the 4S but I'm sure they >> have been out of production for a very long time. >> >> But, of course, that is only my opinion. >> >> Ron & Danvers >> >> Falling down is part of LIFE... >> Getting back up is LIVING... >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:34 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones >> >> I don't think this is the case. You've been able to buy brand new iPhone 4S >> since the iPhone 5 was announced, and I doubt Apple stocked a year's worth >> of iPhone 4S in advance. A quick Google search lead to the web page >> http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/03/12/apple-to-diversify-manufacturers-f >> or-iphone-5s-and-low-cost-iphone >> where it talks about Apple's manufacturing partners producing low cost >> iPhones, namely the 4, 4S and upcoming 5C. Also, don't forget the global >> picture where the iPhone 4S is still a very popular phone. >> >> On 09/08/2013 04:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I think it is very safe to say that Apple does not manufacture anymore >>> phones right now than the 5 and have stop manufacturing the 5 now as >>> they begin to roll out the 5C and the 5S. In my mind, they haven't >>> been manufacturing any IPhone 4 since the 4S came out and 4S since the >>> 5 came out. Why should they manufacture old phones when they have >>> loads of phones in stock. Companies have to purchase a certain number >>> of phones and don't sell them all right away due to the great number >>> of phones Apple forces them to buy. If you buy a new 4S right now, >>> you can be sure its old stock. When there is no more old stock, then >>> they start selling used ones and when there are no more used ones, >>> they give you a deal to buy the next model up that they are stuck with >>> anyway because there are 2 other models out by then and life goes on. >>> >>> Ron & Danvers >>> >>> Falling down is part of LIFE... >>> Getting back up is LIVING... >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:47 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones >>> >>> Hi Christopher, >>> >>> I think it's very safe to assume that the 4S will go away because of >>> what you said about the 5C and the 30 Pin connector. Except for the 5C >>> having a 4 inch display and Lightning connector it is much more like >>> the 4S than the 5 is since it is rumored to have the a5 processor. >>> >>> I think it is more than conceivable that there will only be a couple >>> of versions of the 5C and the new 5S in 32 Gb, 64 Gb and 128 Gb. Of >>> course now that it is Sunday afternoon we will all know in less than 48 >> hours. >>> Speculation is fun of course *smile*. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:47 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones >>> >>> I don't think the question is what's going away. Obviously there will >>> still be a lot of iPhone 4, 4S and 5 out there. The question is what >>> will Apple still be manufacturing and selling as new iPhones. Googling >>> around reveals that there's a lot of speculation out there, and we >>> won't know for sure until Tuesday. >>> >>> One rumor is that the 4S will be the entry level model, with it's >>> smaller screen, the 5C will be the midrange model and the 5S will be >>> the high end model. In this scenario, the iPhone 5 would stop being >>> manufactured since the 5C is so similar except for the plastic body. >>> Given that the 4S still has the 30 pin connector though, it may be the >>> phone that's discontinued. >>> >>> The other scenario is that the 5C becomes the low end model, the 5 is >>> the midrange model and the 5S is the new high end model. In this >>> scenario, Apple would stop manufacturing and selling the 4S. >>> >>> One article where the various rumors are discussed is at >>> http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/iphone-5c-rumors.html >>> >>> On 09/08/2013 02:34 AM, Chris H wrote: >>>> Ditto. The 4 or the 4s won't be going away either, the 3Gs will >>>> though as iOs 7 will not run on this now ancient phone. >>>> >>>> On 08/09/2013 03:31, Jesus Garcia wrote: >>>>> Jumping in to this discussion, I doubt the five will be going away >>>>> anytime soon. In Florida don't know about anywhere else Wall Mart is >>>>> selling the 5 >>>>> 16 GB phone for $98.00 with two year contract on provider of choice. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 18:03 >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5S and 5C predictions was: New iPhones >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Siegard, Are there still rumors the 5 is going away? Just wondering >>>>> what I will be able to get at upgrade time in December. Thought I >>>>> would be going to the 5, but on Apple Today, think that is the name, >>>>> it seemed to be the rumor >>>>> 5 would be going away. Maybe the 5-c would be the upgrade, hoping not! >>>>> >>>>> Reggie and Allegra >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tess and others, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As Fred pointed out, the Apple event during which we learn all about >>>>> what the new iPhone has to offer will be on Tuesday at 10 AM Pacific. >>>>> I can't remember when you were able to preorder the iPhone 5 last >>>>> year, but it is assumed that the new iPhone just like last year will >>>>> be in Apple Stores on Friday, September 20 and also that if you >>>>> order it from Apple online that you will get it on that day. I think >>>>> you will be able to preorder the phone eiter on the 10th or shortly >>>>> after for delivery by the 20th. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you want to know more I suggest you check if Rob will put out >>>>> another Today in iOS Podcast episode today or tomorrow. He did >>>>> mention the following on the Today in iOS website regarding what we >>>>> might see in the new >>>>> iPhones: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is a Bingo Card with many of the Rumors being thrown around for >>>>> the next Gen iPhone (5S) and possibly lower cost iPhone (5C) and >>>>> what may also be announced at the September 10th Event. >>>>> >>>>> These are not my predictions - just a listing of some of the rumors >>>>> I think have even a remote possibility. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We will go over this Bingo Card on Ep 281 which will be out late >>>>> this week and then again on Ep 282 which will cover what was >>>>> announced at the Special event. >>>>> >>>>> For those using voice over - below is the full list in Text: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> iPhone 4, 4S & 5 killed off >>>>> >>>>> Dual LED Flash (5S) >>>>> >>>>> New iPhones available September 20th >>>>> >>>>> 128 GB Version (5S) >>>>> >>>>> New Apple TV >>>>> >>>>> A7 Processor (5S) >>>>> >>>>> Multi Color 5C's >>>>> >>>>> Near Field Communication (NFC) (5S) >>>>> >>>>> iWatch >>>>> >>>>> Improved Low Light Photos (5S) >>>>> >>>>> 12 Hours 3G Talk Time (5S) >>>>> >>>>> 2 GB RAM (5S) >>>>> >>>>> Improved LTE (5S) >>>>> >>>>> 5C Cost less than $400 >>>>> >>>>> 12 MP Rear Camera (5S) >>>>> >>>>> Gold & Graphite 5S's >>>>> >>>>> 5S same size as 5 >>>>> >>>>> Wifi 802.11.AC (5S) >>>>> >>>>> Finger Print Scanner (5S) >>>>> >>>>> 4K Video Recording (5S) >>>>> >>>>> 4K Video Out (5S) >>>>> >>>>> China Mobile Gets the iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All shall be revealed on Tuesday! 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