Hi Keith,

        No, I'm not aware of a limit to the number of sub folders you can 
create in List Recorder.  I have some lists that drill down pretty far with my 
organization so I don't think you will find a limit for practical use.

Eric Caron 

On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:22 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:

> This is great! Thanks, Eric.
> 
> Is there a limit to how many levels of sub-folders can be made in 
> ListRecorder? I don't mean, like 212 levels, of course...but can there be 4 
> or 5 levels of sub-folders?
> 
> Thanks again. Keith
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
> 
> To back up part or all of your List Recorder data 
> 
> Place your focus in the list you want to move to the computer.  If you want 
> everything then be in the home list.
> go to list commands 
> go to export list 
> follow the directions.
> I suggest you give the list a name that starts with two dashes as this will 
> make the exported list name go to the top of the list of files named in the 
> iTunes file share table 
> once named export the list. 
> Now when you go to iTunes and go to the table showing apps that share files 
> you can select List Recorder and in the next table you will see all the data. 
>  Find the file you named with the dashes at the start and then use the save 
> button to save this to your computer. Remember there are different recording 
> formats in List Recorder if you use a PC select one that works there.  I use 
> a Mac so I'm all set with the default format.
> 
> If anything ever happened to your phone you can now copy back the list 
> recorder file and have everything back on your phone.
> 
> I back up the data now and then as I have lots of List Recorder lists with 
> lots of different types of information.
> 
> I hope this helps answer your question.
> 
> For a podcast on this you can visit the sixthmode.com site and there are lots 
> of podcasts.  I  think I did one on this on the Eric's podcasts page.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Do ListRecorder files backup with  an iTunes synch? If not, how does one  
>> best backup files from ListRecorder?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Eric Caron
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
>> 
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>>      I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
>> Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it 
>> has ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including 
>> motions and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a 
>> recording for example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy 
>> organization of recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most 
>> of us are not using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other 
>> then making a quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list 
>> Recorder to store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly 
>> into list and sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the 
>> audio description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find 
>> things or add the next recording to a list.
>> 
>> You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back 
>> up all the recordings to your computer.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton <julie_ac...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive 
>>> sense that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from 
>>> contaminating a recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the 
>>> end product), it also makes for a very anxious and mysterious user 
>>> experience, particularly for a relative clutz like me who isn't very 
>>> intuitive about where the important buttons like "stop" might be hiding in 
>>> the silence.
>>> 
>>> Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this 
>>> though, so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
>>> investment!
>>> 
>>> Still open for competition though...
>>> 
>>> And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
>>> memos as a recorder?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
>>> 
>>> Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent 
>>> from it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't 
>>> know where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit 
>>> disconcerting and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels 
>>> that way. So, here is what I recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. 
>>> This also makes VO go totally quiet, but if you record in express 
>>> mode, you can shake phone to start and shake once again to stop. Plus 
>>> a tone is played when it starts and stops recording. Plus, if the 
>>> shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that, there is only one 
>>> button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent because it's 
>>> recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then double tap 
>>> like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the 
>>> ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from 
>>> lowest to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via 
>>> iTunes file sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from 
>>> your pc browser that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this 
>>> one is the first one which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It 
>>> doesn't have dropbox like some others do, but i still use this one over 
>>> most on my iPhone 4s. It should work on the 5 just as good.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle 
>>> to the lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and 
>>> Facebook user
>>> ID: rau47
>>> 
>>> On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> 
>>>> Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, 
>>>> voice recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, 
>>>> with results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally 
>>>> unusable and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis 
>>>> and causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as 
>>>> possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, 
>>>> and which allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  
>>>> Any experiences would be appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Julie
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