I have missed some phone calls and texts because I'd turned my phone to mute with the switch, but since the clicks and whatnot are still enabled, I don’t' realise my phone's wringing or pinging or whatever until later. Especially if I don't have it on me to notice the vibrations for the alerts. You turn it to mute and can easily forget about it since you can still manage the phone with all the VO sounds enabled. Not exactly helpful. Oh well, just something else to get used to I suppose.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VO sounds I agree completely with Cara here. I want to be able to hit the mute button and turn off all sounds and VoiceOver. I don't want to be in a meeting and realize I forgot to turn off the sounds on my phone and have to unlock it so I can turn it off or go into settings to turn sounds off. I don't always want to turn the phone off because I may want to quickly look something up, check for messages or take a quick note. It may be true that the mute button just turns off the ringer and alerts, but those are the sounds a phone makes when VoiceOver isn't on. I think the real purpose of the mute button, as used by sighted users, is to mute the phone, i.e. turn all sounds off. The vibration may bother some, but if the phone is in my pocket, it's much less bothersome to those around me than having VoiceOver go off and start reading an alert. On 10/06/2013 07:21 PM, Brice Smith wrote: > I love being able to turn VO sounds on and off. It might be one of my > favorite, most used features of IOS 7. I often want to silence the > ringer and text message volume but keep VO clicks on. I use VO sounds > for orientation purposes and always felt disoriented when they weren't > on before. > > For those who find this inconvenient, remember that the real purpose > of the mute switch is to silence ringer and text alerts, not to make > the phone truly silent. In fact, vibration alerts can be more annoying > than ringing alerts for some people. Also, if the mute switch is down > but voiceover is still on and at a loud volume, you'll still hear it > speak at that loud volume if you unlock the phone, check the time, > ETC. Mentally, I think it's most helpful to think of the mute switch > as just that: a switch that mutes the ringer/phone noise. If you want > total silence, turn the phone off. > > Brice > > On 10/6/13, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Cara, >> >> I can see how maybe Voiceover sounds should be linked to the Mute >> switch as was the case before iOS 7, but I think I remember several >> posts where people actually thought it was nice that now this was no >> longer the case and that one could mute the phone (ringer and alerts) >> yet still get Voiceover sounds. >> >> As for having Voiceover linked to the mute switch, I don't think >> you'll find too much support for that. In any case, it's not really a >> big deal to press power or home to bring up the lock screen and then >> to turn speech off with a 3-finger double tap which always has and >> still works fine. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Cara Quinn >> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: VO sounds >> >> Hi shane, >> >> I personally wish that I could continue to have my VO sounds linked >> with my mute switch. I basically need to do several more steps now to >> toggle the sounds off (even with sounds in the rotor) whereas before, >> I could simply flip the mute switch. >> >> For myself, when I have my mute switch set to mute, I really want >> that actually to mean that things are muted. :) Not to mean that now >> there are a whole other set of sounds still going on. IN fact, since >> we're on the subject, I'd also wish I could have my VoiceOver speech >> obey the mute switch as well. >> >> For my uses, it is just more steps to do the same thing. So while I'm >> glad that people are happy with the extra settings, for myself, I'd >> prefer it to obey the mute setting. Sometimes having more settings >> just to have more settings is not always a desirable or sane thing to >> do. :) >> >> Now, I chose not to beta test, this cycle, but you can be sure I >> won't make that mistake again. :) >> >> Just my thoughts. >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> On Oct 6, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Shane clark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> So I'm just curious, how do yall like the ability to turn VO sounds on/off? >> I currently have my ringer turned on, with the VoiceOver sounds >> turned off, so I'm just hearing the normal iPhone clicks. I'm kind of >> used to hearing both the iPhone clicks and the VO sounds as well, so >> I am more or less trying to play around with the different settings. >> What do you think of these settings, and how do you prefer to have >> your phone set? >> Thanks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> [email protected]. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> [email protected]. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> [email protected]. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> [email protected]. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> [email protected]. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> [email protected]. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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