Pablo,

  Thank you for sharing the experiences you gathered from others. I saw this 
problem on my iPhone 4S, roommate's iphone 4, my iPad 3. Right now typing this 
email on my iPhone 4s. It freezes every few now and then when I switched to 
check an incoming text now. I came back I typed and the letters didn't show up 
while 'typing' them, only after typing a while it all came after. Major delay. 

I also own an iPod Touch 5, which I did not update. It works much faster than 
anything I got here since the update. Even the iPad3 that use to be faster is 
now slower. Apple did send in the Update file which I am NOT installing. What 
right does Apple have to send it to me with my agreeing to it, and occupying 
about 3GB? There is no way to delete it. 

> On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:19 PM, "Pablo Morales" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yesterday, after I read the Cara's email, I took my home phone, and I called 
> apple again.
> Surprise. They know, tech support, accessibility, and customer care, that IOs 
> 7  makes iPhone 4  very slow. So it is not a unique condition in one phone. 
> As I said before, apple is receiving hundreds of calls every day reporting 
> this problem. The guy of accessibility, told me that that problem is common  
> in the iPhone 4 with IOs 7. Could be that for the people who use iPhone 4, 
> with IOs 7, is because the use that they do is just calls and texting, but no 
> a lot of things.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <[email protected]>
> To: "viphone" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I respectfully disagree.  I think sluggishness on the iPhone 4 for Voiceover 
> users is the norm not the exception.  I think sighted people will get by just 
> find but, Voiceover users will notice the pinch of 3 year old hardware much 
> more.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with Christopher that iOS 7 on a 4S is a very good experience (apart 
>> from the few bugs we also had to deal with in iOS 5 and iOS 6). I don’t see 
>> any sluggishness. I can’t speak for an iPhone 4 except that I know 4 people 
>> and I mean I know them personally and spoke with them about it who are 
>> sighted and still use the iPhone 4 and all of them say iOS 7 works well on 
>> their iPhone 4. I think if somebody has serious issues with sluggishness 
>> that this is not normal behavior and they should restore the phone using 
>> iTunes and set it up as a new phone. I know this is a bit of work, but the 
>> few times I had issues with my 4 some years ago and my 4S doing that fixed 
>> everything quite nicely. I also expect that when iOS 7.1 comes out many bugs 
>> and issues will just go away just as they always have.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of [email protected]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:15 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>> 
>> Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s.  It makes the entire 
>> everything sluggish, even after disabling certain fancy features. It's 
>> really not fair.
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:57 PM, "Gary Petraccaro" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ierne
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>> 
>> Well this issue changes by the day.  Even on 1% battery, without charger, my 
>> iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02.  So contrary to what David C. has 
>> stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, because 
>> I was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting the charger, 
>> so something has changed.  My tests also suggest that the unit downloads the 
>> update whether locked or not. So it seems the only way to stop this download 
>> now is to turn WiFi off.  And who knows, Apple may be able to remove that 
>> barrier for those of us holding out...?
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