Anthony I just wanted to say that post was totally uncalled for. Put
yourself in her shoes before you make such a comment!

On 11/9/13, Ron Pelletier <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sieghard,
>
> Good job.  I fully agree that it has to be a hardware problem and needs to
> be addressed by Apple if it is still under the Apple Care.
> I'm proud to be a member of this list alongside people who really care.
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:05 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine
>
> Beautifully stated, Sieghard.
>
> Sounds like you did some serious tech support.  Regina was very fortunate
> to
> have you walk her through that extremely stressful process.
>
> Hopefully she will be up and running soon.
>
> It's good to know that there are people, like you, who are willing to
> really
> jump in there and dig in.
>
> Most Sincerely,
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Sorry if I disagree, but cleaning your house or taking care of non-existing
> children does not solve WiFi issues. I think you really can't generalize
> this the way you do.
>
> Reggie has a real and I mean "real" issue with her iPhone not connecting to
> her WiFi and if your iPhone did that I am sure you would not decide to
> clean
> your house in the hope it would fix the WiFi. I am saying this because I
> talked to Reggie on the phone because the issue intriqued me and I was
> hoping I could help her resolve it.
>
> I heard Voiceover talking on her iPhone while we were talking on Facetime
> Audio on her iPad which, by the way, connected happily to her WiFi.
> I started out by getting her to remove all apps from her app switcher and
> then to reboot the phone. This did not help.
> The interesting thing is that if Reggie pulled up the control centre (she
> is
> using a 4S with iOS 7.03, she can double tap WiFi and Bluetooth and it says
> for both item that they are On.
> However, if she then goes into Settings, Bluetooth, it says Bluetooth is
> off. If she goes to Settings, WiFi, it says WiFi is Off and on top of that
> it says that the On/Off button is dimmed.
> Next I asked Reggie to go to General, Reset and to double tap on Reset
> Network Settings.
> She did that and, by the way, Reggie seems to be a rather competent iPhone
> user, and after the phone rebooted the problem was still there.
> This left a factory reboot.
> I asked Reggie to hook the iPhone up to her computer. We did an encrypted
> backup and then started the restore process.
> Once it was going I had to leave her with it since I had to get back to
> work, but Reggie ended up finishing a factory restore and set up her phone
> as a new device. I told her to try that first since she can restore from
> her
> backup any time and I wanted to avoid a problem coming back because of a
> corrupt backup.
> Reggie later texted me that she completed the factory restore and the issue
> was still there, she is not only unable to as much as turn on her WiFi let
> along connect to a network, but even Bluetooth will not turn on.
> In my book this is clearly a Hardwear issue and I believe that Reggie is
> fortunately still covered by Apple Care and in any case plans to upgrade to
> a 5S soon. However, it also is an example where a user has donew everything
> possible to solve the issue and where the issue seems to be clearly a
> Hardwear defect.
>
> I haven't heard yet from Reggie as she was trying to line up a ride to an
> Apple Store to see if they would replace her phone, but hopefully that was
> the case. I consider myself to be somebody who knows what he is talking
> about most of the time, and if this was my iPhone 4S I would certainly be
> on
> the horn with Apple trying to get a replacement and I doubt washing her
> floors would have fixed the problem *smile*
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Anthony Vece
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:49 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine
>
> I just never heard of so many people having so many problems.
>
> I can't help but wonder how so many people are responsible for causing
> there
> own problems.
> If something is working, don't fix it.
>
> Put the phone down and, do other things, I mean I know our phones do a lot
> of tasks but, go clean your house or, take care of your children.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
>
>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Scott Duck" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Regina,
>> You might try resetting your modem and router.  I have had incidences
>> in which some of the many wifi devices around here get kicked off of
>> wifi and they won't go back on it.  During that same time, other
>> devices work fine on wifi.  When this happens, I turn off the router
>> and modem, for a minute or two, and turn them back on.  It usually
>> works
> for me.
>> HTH,
>> Scott Duck
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Regina Alvarado
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:24 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine
>>
>> Yes, in fact I did the reset twice, but thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>>
>> reggie and Allegra
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 2:17 PM, "Alan Paganelli"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Did you do a reset of your phone?
>>
>> Hold down the power button and the home button for 10 seconds and then
>> let go.  Voice Over will come up talking.
>> -------
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!!!!!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
>> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
> listening!
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Alvarado"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 5:33 AM
>> Subject: no wifi on iPhone but other devices are fine
>>
>>
>>> All other devices have wifi except iPhone all of a sudden. I don't
>>> even see the normal networks on my screen and the wifi on/off is
>>> dimmed
>> when I try to turn it on. Any thoughts why this is happening?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> reggie and Allegra
>>>
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