well said Sieghard, can't agree more with your post.
Rob, iOS 6 got up to 6.14 although i think 6.14 only for iPhone 5 users.

Hmm, all these 53++ messages let me think of a business opportunity.

I reckon i can hunt down some of the Nokia button phones and i also have a 
friend that was a Talks diller in Asia and Pacific. Deal to the not-so-recent 
development, he has about 1000 license sitting somewhere with him and he lost a 
big chunk of his business on this investment. Oh, he also have some of the KNFB 
reader license as well...

What about this, fully license Talks and a old Nokia phone for $500US, or, 
Talks + KNFB reader + WayFinder (remember those folks?) + Nokia N86 for $1500US?
And consider thise, since you are such a good convert from Apple to good old 
Nokia, i offer you 10% discount, to $450 for a good old nokia phone with talks, 
or $1350 for the lots?
That those, still cheaper than your Braille + 18... and you know, you get all 
those goodies that you get for old time sake. :P



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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 21:22, "RobH." <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I observe that we are still on 7.0.3,  the bit of interest being the 0.  I 
> think 4 got up to 4.5.something, can't remember what 6 got up to;   6.1.3, I 
> still have it;  so no Major updates yet, 7.1 should clear all the current 
> issues,  so long as they don't introduce new ones.
> 
> RobH, waiting for the new version dust to settle.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne gmail " <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 AM
> Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously?
> 
> 
> Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better.  IOS 6 started with bugs
> and ended up butterflies because each update included fixes and
> improvements.  I'll bet that was true of the $4,000 Android phone as well.
> After all it depends on the Android operating system which is relatively new
> to accessibility and shows it.
> 
> I can easily recall picking up the phone, dialing the operator, and telling
> her the long distance number I wanted to reach and waiting while she
> connected me.  We tended to hold our analog watches where we could see them
> because the long distance charges per minute could quickly mount into
> serious money.  For me, I think IOS 7 is really great<smile>!
> 
> Regards,
> Wayne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
> 
> Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out
> their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000. It is a
> phone specifically developed for the blind. It's specific functions work
> well for the blind. You have your wish answered. Enjoy your $4000 Android
> phone.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: [email protected]
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:40, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the many
> shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared in ver
> 7 that were not in IOS6.
>> It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are
> compromised.
>> 1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the call
> but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a drain
> on my wallet due to large long distance call charges.
>> 2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able to call or
> message or store the number with a tap. No! I could do it with my 6 year old
> Nokia better.
>> 3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my previous
> phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 times to get a iphone
> and guess what? I can do less with it! Very frustrating.
>> This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new IOS
> versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs will stick with
> us. Technology for the sake of technology. But no technology for the
> visually challenged. Wish someone would charge more but make a phone that
> works. With IOS7 AND IPHONE all one can do is pull ones hair out, welcome to
> a bald world populated with buggy iphones!
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