Hi,

It seems like the Beacons only help determin micro location - E.G.
where abouts you are inside a shop as opposed to which street you're
on. Additionally, *from what I can tell*, it seems like this
functionality has to be implemented inside applications and is an iOS7
exclusive.

I still more or less stand by my point that Blutooth does not make a
difference in location accuracy.

You can read about the iBeacons at
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/06/19/inside-ios-7-ibeacons-enhance-apps-location-awareness-via-bluetooth-le

Cheers,
Ben.

On 12/3/13, Thom Spittle <[email protected]> wrote:
> However, the new apple beacons are small, short range Bluetooth devices
> that
> will be coming out soon. They will be used by businesses to push specials
> and advertisements, and give very accurate close range Bluetooth navigation
> through triangulation or to a particular beacon
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 3:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth helps determine location. Fact or fiction.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Short answer: no. Longer answer: no & see below for why this is the case.
>>
>> The only way that this would have a chance of working is if a Blutooth
>> device database was created with information about devices and their
>> locations, in the same fassion as the WIFI hotspot database. However,
> given
>> the reasonably short range of most Blutooth devices, any company that
>> wanted to attempt this would most likely have to enter peoples properties
>> to gather any sizable amount of data.
>> On top of this, the mobile nature of Blutooth devices would make for
>> terrible accuracy levels; after all, do you really leave your iPhone in
> one
>> place all the time? If you're anything like me you take it almost
> everyware
>> you go - my 4S has been all over England and has been known to visit
>> wales
>> every now and again.  Consider what would happen if you tried to check
>> your location whilst on a train: undoubtedly there will be a large number
> of
>> Blutooth devices in range, but their "homes" would be spread out
>> throughout the country, making the task of determining your actual
> location
>> more or less inpossible.
>> Lastly, WIFI access points are almost always left on, whereas I only
> really
>> turn Blutooth on when I'm using it. Even if we set aside the above
> problems,
>> it's entirely possible that a user may not have her Blutooth turned on
> when
>> data was being gathered, resulting in her device not being indexed.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>>
>> On 12/3/13, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I haven't read this. Where did you read this? Given that bluetooth
>> > only has a 30 foot range, I wouldn't think it would help with GPS
> accuracy.
>> >
>> > Wifi does help with GPS accuracy though. That's because GPS apps, in
>> > addition to checking with GPS satellites, also check with hot spot
>> > databases and triangulate your location based on the hot spots you're
>> > around.
>> >
>> > On 12/03/2013 12:28 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:
>> >> Hi, I read somewhere that having Bluetooth turned on allows the phone
>> >> to know more about where you are. Yes? No? Is this simply that GPS is
>> >> perhaps related to Bluetooth? Or, is there something else I don't
>> >> know.
>> >> Or, is this fiction.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> >>
>> >> Neal
>> >>
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