Since people with disabilities other than blindness require all fields to be accessible in the tab order, or what you might call the swipe order in thinking about a touchscreen, it would seem, then, that these fields that must be accessed via touch are a giant accessibility fail. The question is of course, who has to do the fixing? Is the problem with Apple? Safari? Or with the sites? Or some of all? I don't know. But this is a problem that will affect other than just blind people. Mary
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > There is an interesting situation that started with iOS 7. Edit fields, > buttons, and links cannot be activated unless they are actually visible on > the display. So, when flicking through a website, if one double-taps on an > item which can be activated, but VO hasn't caused the item to appear on the > display, the item will not activate. > > Also, there are some interesting new web technologies which allow for much > more visually interactive pages. These technologies appear to refresh > specific parts of the page, amongst other behaviours that confuse screen > readers. In many cases, finding the actual field or item on the display and > holding it with one finger locks VO focus to it so that doing a split-tap > with another finger then causes the item to activate. > > Finding these items can be a challenge on the dynamic sites. I use three > finger horizontal and vertical flicks to bump the item into appearing on the > display. > > Unfortunately, none of these corrections can be used effectively from a > keyboard. They all require direct interaction with the display. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 19 Dec 2013, at 9:24, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Another thing that sometimes happens is that keyboard focus is not in the >> form field. Sometimes tabbing or turning voiceover on and off will fix this. >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> Go beyond the Christmas story this year; >> meet Immanuel (God with us), >> Jesus, the crucified Savior, >> Christ, the risen Lord. >> >> >> >>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I haven't used a keyboard in awhile, but I recall that in order to >>> type in the form, the Quick Navigation needs to be turned off. Is your >>> Quick Nav off? Probably something that has already been checked, but >>> good to cover the bases. >>> >>> Wayne >>> >>>> On 12/17/13, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Which form are you having trouble with at audible.com? I've had no trouble >>>> with their forms as far as I know so could you be specific. And could you >>>> please give an example of a website where you are getting these symbols? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheryl >>>> >>>> May the words of my mouth >>>> and the meditation of my heart >>>> be acceptable to You, Lord, >>>> my rock and my Redeemer. >>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 10:20 PM, melissa tucker <melissatuck...@att.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> well, I get this with many websites. for example, audible.com >>>>> one of two things happens when I try to type anything on the form. Either >>>>> the keyboard isn't registering the fact that I'm typing and nothing ends >>>>> up being written on the form. The other thing that happens sometimes is >>>>> that I get this type of junk when I'm typing. example >>>>> åß∂ƒ©˙©∆˚¬¬…®´∑†¥¨¨¨ˆˆøππ“‘‘«¡™£¢∞§§•ªº–≠≠≠–ºª•¶§∞¢¢£¢£™¡ >>>>> I don't think this is a keyboard issue, I've tried several keyboards with >>>>> the same thing happening. I'm going to go to apple with feedback on this >>>>> issue. I end up having to go back to the home screen, or in rare cases, >>>>> closing the app. This takes unnecessary time that I don't always >>>>> have./files/patterns/pdf/SN0160_0.pdf >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Cara Quinn <modelc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> HI melissa, >>>>>> >>>>>> A few questions; >>>>>> >>>>>> • What form(s) are you trying to fill out? >>>>>> >>>>>> • Can you send a link >>>>>> >>>>>> • What issues are you having when you are trying to fill out the above >>>>>> form? >>>>>> >>>>>> • Where, on the form do these issues happen? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much! >>>>>> >>>>>> Smiles, >>>>>> >>>>>> Cara :) >>>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Melissa tucker <melissatuck...@att.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the problem? I can't get anything done like this. this is >>>>>> ridiculous!!! I have reset everything on my 4s running 7.4. I don't >>>>>> know what's broken the worse, the mail program or safari. One works >>>>>> about as good as the other. 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