Hi,
I am thinking of getting an IPOD TOUCH and I am wondering if this
issue  was ever resolved?

Thanks,
Tim

On 3/25/13, Chris Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
> The electronics keep the batteries from being killed immediately by
> discharging them too far.  I doubt they do anything to make the
> batteries last through more cycles, a company will advertise how long
> the battery will run on a charge, but the number of charge cycles isn't
> advertised much.  Since companies are in the business of selling you new
> stuff when their old stuff stops working, they may not have your
> interest at heart.  From all I've read, the shallower the discharge of a
> Lithium battery, the longer it will last.  Deep discharge should be
> avoided.  If my iphones ever shut down at 12% I've not noticed it, I've
> never let one get that low.
>
>
>
> On 3/25/2013 11:50, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> Modern LI batteries have electronics in them to keep the charge from
>> getting so low as to cause permanent damage. There's no problem with
>> running a LI battery down that low. The only exception would be if
>> you'll not be charging the battery for a while, such as days or weeks.
>> LI batteries will continue to lose their charge even if they aren't
>> being used, so if you run your battery all the way down and then don't
>> charge it for a while, you could cause some permanent damage that the
>> electronics is there to prevent. For this reason, always charge up a
>> device with a LI battery before storing it away for any length of time.
>> Also, since there's no harm in charging a LI battery, there's no reason
>> not to charge it up whenever it's convenient.
>>
>> On 03/25/2013 09:34 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
>>> The data is in flash, low batteries won't corrupt it.  Running a lithium
>>> battery down that low very often is definitely hard on it, though, I
>>> wouldn't make a habit of it unless I really wanted to buy a new device
>>> before I had to.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/24/2013 22:02, Lauren Simmons wrote:
>>>> When first reading the details of this iPod Touch 5th gen battery
>>>> charge thread this past Thursday/Friday, I set out to try to reproduce
>>>> these findings.
>>>>
>>>> I charged my iPod Touch 5th gen to 100%. I then let the battery drain
>>>> by turning up the brightness to 100% as well as letting digit eyes
>>>> scan for 1 hour intervals as well as doing the same with Light
>>>> detector.
>>>>
>>>> I found that at 20% I will get a warning about low battery.
>>>>
>>>> At about 12% my iPod Touch will lose speech and shut off. It will not
>>>> completely power down, but it will simulate a shut down as if I tapped
>>>> the sleep/power button on top of unit.
>>>>
>>>> I then used the lightning connector cable to charge the device until
>>>> the speech came back on by itself at about 21 or 22% battery life.
>>>>
>>>> Once again I unplugged the USB lightning cable to run the iPod Touch
>>>> on battery, and at 20% I again received a warning of low battery.
>>>>
>>>> At about 12% to 14% the iPod Touch shut itself off once again.
>>>>
>>>> Once the unit automatically shut itself off, I charged up to 22% about
>>>> 3 times, so I think, despite the posted comments from Apple techs, it
>>>> appears as though the iPod Touch 5th gen might have been engineered to
>>>> present a warning at 20% and shut off at 12% battery life as those of
>>>> us on this list with the iPod Touch 5th gen are all experiencing the
>>>> same thing.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not at all alarmed by this. Should I be? I'm assuming a shutdown
>>>> at 12% of battery life is probably good in that it will protect the
>>>> integrity of the data on the iPod Touch. Letting the battery drain
>>>> significantly may result in data corruption, so I'd rather be safe
>>>> than sorry.
>>>>
>>>> LS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/13, Deisel1016 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Richard you have no idea how glad I am that you've responded. Ok so
>>>>> if u
>>>>> could I'd like to converse a little more via email and maybe even a
>>>>> phone
>>>>> call and the reason being is that I need to know if I should just
>>>>> live with
>>>>> it or try to get another replacement which might end up with worse
>>>>> issues
>>>>> than the 12 percent shut down but. Same as you I sent mine to apple
>>>>> care and
>>>>> they sent it back with a "couldn't reproduce issue" which is saying
>>>>> that
>>>>> there's nothing wrong with it,which I know to be false. Right now as
>>>>> we
>>>>> speak I have some crash reports going out to the engineers since this
>>>>> is my
>>>>> fourth replacement(5th gen 64gb black) and I should have an answer,the
>>>>> senior advisor says, by today which is Friday. I will keep u posted
>>>>> with any
>>>>> info or progress as I feel for you since it's the exact same issue as
>>>>> mine.
>>>>> Maybe it's more widespread as u say but people just don't let they're
>>>>> device
>>>>> get down so low. I think I may be lucky as other people have reported
>>>>> they're device working well for a month and then the battery just
>>>>> starts
>>>>> draining like crazy. I don't have that problem. Same as you my device
>>>>> seems
>>>>> to have excellent battery life unless I'm walking with it out in the
>>>>> cold or
>>>>> playing infinity blade 2(which is very graphic and memory intense)
>>>>> and its
>>>>> better than my old 4th gen. Even when its battery drains from game
>>>>> play it
>>>>> will go right back up when i close the game and wait a minute. Same
>>>>> as cold
>>>>> weather too. Soon as I get back into the warm house the percentage
>>>>> stabilizes. So Richard please tell me-How long have you had your
>>>>> newest
>>>>> replacement? It looks to me you've had it for a few months and so far
>>>>> the
>>>>> only issue is the battery still dies at 12 percent? I ask only so I
>>>>> can
>>>>> figure my next step. If your device is running smooth otherwise than
>>>>> I too
>>>>> can live with the issue. It's not good to drain these lithium ion
>>>>> batteries
>>>>> very low anyway so I've been telling myself its actually a system bug
>>>>> that
>>>>> is helping me rather than hurting the device,haha! Oh the things I've
>>>>> told
>>>>> myself to try and live with these device bugs. As I said I'm
>>>>> expectting an
>>>>> email from the senior advisor who sent my crash reports out to the
>>>>> engineers
>>>>> and he said it will explain why it's doing this. I plan to share what
>>>>> I
>>>>> learn right away. Sorry for the long message I'm just excited to
>>>>> finally
>>>>> find someone with my exact issue. Hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                          DEREK C
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