Well, and I am guessing that I am even older than you, perhaps. So my
argument just went out the window.

Neal


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Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Well, I'm getting old enough that that sounds agist to me, Neal. Maybe it's
a factor in some cases, but I should think there are people of a certain age
who might write such an article with a different tone.

Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> wrote:

> Curtis Chong the author of this article has been around for some time. 
> It would have been interesting if the article had been written by 
> someone younger.
> 
> Neal
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
> 
> Um. Where to start? Well, if you don't want a smart phone, don't get 
> one. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, get an iPod Touch, or 
> an iPad without a data plan. What are those, you say? Hmmm. As for the 
> virtual keyboards they're not as fast for anyone as a regular 
> keyboard. How fast was the old method of using the teeny keys on a 
> "real" phone keyboard or even the numpad keys for typing letters? Not
very. And why not use Siri to call a number?
> What is Siri? Hmmm.
> 
> I will say that I have come across folks at my local blind center who 
> receive iPhones and haven't the slightest idea how to operate them. A 
> well-meaning person might have given it as a gift, but they ask me why 
> they can't do things more simply. Maybe for some, a bit more 
> one-on-one attention would have been a good idea.
> 
> having said this, I think this article is more than a tad 
> condescending, if addressed to most blind folks out there.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
> 
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article 
>> covering
> the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it 
> would be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things 
> which are "not good" about the iPhone but this article supposedly did 
> just that.  I plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week 
> with my responses to the ten objections but I'll just say that it's 
> one of the most irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from 
> that magazine.  Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash 
> about the NFB vs any other organization or even a criticism of the 
> Monitor.  However, the piece infuriated me because the NFB is a highly 
> influential organization and many of its members and readers of the 
> Monitor will take the article seriously just because it comes from a 
> nationally recognized blindness organization.  My fear is that many 
> people may read this article and will be convinced to not buy an iPhone
due to things which the article claims are "not good" about the device.
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