Thank you, I forgot the proper number of zeros.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 21 Jun 2014, at 23:02, Joseph FreeTech <joseph.freet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hard drive sectors can be written over up to 300,000 times on spinning hard 
> drives which are not even considered enterprise drives but are considered 
> good drives such as the Western Digital Black series.
> http://media.webcollage.net/rwvfp/wc/live/13689131/module/wdc/products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-771434.pdf?action=download-resource&caption=Drive%20Specification%20Sheet%20(PDF)&a=d
> 
> Joseph
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You 
> Faring?
> 
> 
> Apparently, the biggest problem with solid-state memory is the controller. 
> The memory is estimated to last 60,000 rewrite cycles before starting to 
> fail, which is significantly longer than HD technology. What fails is the 
> memory allocation controller.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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>> On 21 Jun 2014, at 22:09, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> True, but deterioration rates should be less, and each transfer 
>> effectively
>> refreshes the data to full strength. True, a glitch could also proliferate
>> at each re-write. A new copy is only  as good as the old one. So taking a
>> new copy sooner to minimise the degradation of the old one.
>> 
>> I don't even understand the physics behind what holds memory in modern ss
>> materials, so not sure how well its degradation process is understood and
>> calculated yet.
>> We are still looking for the ultimate in really permanent memory.
>> 
>> Apple could really score big if they floated something like that. 
>> Bio-memory
>> or atomic level storage....    I've not heard of the latest ideas for a
>> hwile now.
>> 
>> 
>> RobH.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joseph FreeTech" <joseph.freet...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You
>> Faring?
>> 
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> actually, your current hard drive has the same type of magnetic surface as
>> your previous floppies and is also susceptible to data rot, so you might
>> want to reconsider how you're storing such old data.
>> 
>> A hard disk drive platter (or disk) is the circular disk on which magnetic
>> data is stored in a hard disk drive.
>> The rigid nature of the platters in a hard drive is what gives them their
>> name (as opposed to the flexible materials which are used to make floppy
>> disk).
>> Hard drives typically have several platters which are mounted on the same
>> spindle. A platter can store information on both sides, requiring two 
>> heads
>> per platter.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You
>> Faring?
>> 
>> 
>> I started working with computers in 1983. Every time media upgrades, I
>> transfer all relevant files from the old media that is becoming obsolete, 
>> to
>> the new media. At this point, all my old stuff is taking up part of a one
>> terabyte external HD. Much easier to haul around with me, and I know the
>> data will not degrade as the older magnetic surfaces do.
>> 
>> My music, which is on CD is also on a 250 GB external HD, and will shortly
>> be transferred to a 256 GB USB stick with lightning port when I receive it
>> in a few months.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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>> 
>>> On 21 Jun 2014, at 8:27, "RobH." <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm glad you wrote this.  The youngsters haven't got half a lifetimes
>>> accumulation of written work to manage.  this is ever my issue with 
>>> giving
>>> up a PC of any type when this argument arises.  Great here and now
>>> consumer
>>> infotainment iGismo; but the more seniors brought an awful lot of 
>>> material
>>> with us, often in plain text, which is no bigger than the sum of the
>>> characters and spaces to produce it.   But it is our stuff, and we don't
>>> wanna part with it, or give it somebody else to look after, for an
>>> esculating fee no doubt, and so on.
>>> We've dragged it this far from a few floppies to boxes of floppies.  We
>>> got
>>> it this far, so not giving up now.
>>> Great if that pen drive idea works, and we got routers that have the usb
>>> slot and support the concept. That's a lot of IFs for us all to benefit
>>> from
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> RobH.
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>>> From: "Sherrie" <nanagoose4...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are 
>>> You
>>> Faring?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i use my iPhone 5 extensively and got an iPad a year ago to share with my
>>> sighted husband.  I am glad he uses it since I don't bother with it at 
>>> all
>>> anymore as I can do anything on my phone that I could do on the iPad. I
>>> find
>>> the iPad very difficult to use as the screen layouts are so different and
>>> the large screen makes it harder to feel around for the items I want.  I
>>> have used the iDevices with a BT keyboard for a few weeks at a time when
>>> away on vacation but was extremely glad to get back to my windows laptop.
>>> I
>>> use Excel a lot and have not mastered the Numbers app for this as yet.
>>> Also,
>>> doing the hundreds of emails I get daily is much quicker on the laptop.
>>> Surfing the Internet is so much quicker with IE or Firefox. .
>>> But the main thing I use the laptop for is copying and storing articles,
>>> recipes, information and such.  When an email or webpage has information 
>>> I
>>> might find useful in the future I copy the relevant info and quickly save
>>> it
>>> in my Dropbox folder. I have huge files of health articles, recipes,
>>> iDevice
>>> information, computer and Jaws info, and tons of other stuff. I have not
>>> figured out how to quickly (or slowly for that matter) copy items from 
>>> the
>>> web or email on my IOS device and save them in my files for future
>>> reference.
>>> Another thing the Windows laptop can do is handle certain functions on
>>> Facebook that I can't do with the regular Facebook app.I also agree with
>>> the
>>> person who mentioned the ability to use USB memory sticks for the NLS
>>> readers and other backup purposes. I use my iPhone to listen to books
>>> during
>>> the day but find my NLS player easier for night listening.
>>> If you need a new computer you can get a budget laptop for less than an
>>> iPad
>>> and then you have the best of both worlds.
>>> just my biased opinion...
>>> Sherrie Gosling
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Teresa Cochran
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: If Anyone Is Using Only iDevices and No Computer, How Are You
>>> Faring?
>>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> I have a computer that needs a hard-drive replacement, at the very least,
>>> and possibly has a failed logic board. I'm seriously considering 
>>> replacing
>>> it with an iPad. Price is only somewhat an issue, since there seems to be
>>> only about $100 US difference between a new model I would want and the
>>> iPad.
>>> Mainly, I don't want the hassle of replacing moving parts and getting 
>>> dust
>>> and cat-hair and such snarled up in it. I'm also extremely comfortable
>>> with
>>> iOS and use my iPod 5th gen constantly. I intend to use the iPad with a
>>> keyboard.
>>> 
>>> So has anyone else taken this sort of step? Am I out of my mind, or do 
>>> you
>>> think this is doable?
>>> 
>>> I am a casual user. I read books, browse the web, play videos and music
>>> and
>>> games, and occasionally write for informal publications.
>>> 
>>> What do you guys think?
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Winging its way from my iPod
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