This is an incorrect statement. KNFB Reading Technologies developed and sold the KNFB Reader for Nokia Phones running on the Symbian platform. As I recall, they came out with one or two updates per year, so that is what I will initially expect from them with their second app.
Also, KNFB Reader for Nokia did not invent anything. The OCR software they used for the Symbian platform came from a company in England. The page edge detection for Symbian platform came from a company in Europe. This was easy to figure out by going through the list of copyrights and trademarks which was included with the KNFB Reader. I have already tracked down probable OCR technology and page detection technology apps for iPhone that I suspect KNFB Reader is utilising for their $99 app. I was a little surprised to read that NFB sponsored $11.5 million for the iPhone app. For the Nokia app, KNFB Reader utilised over a million dollars of federal research grant moneys. Yes, these are some of the reasons why I am very cynical of the extremely high pricing of the app. I have no doubt it will work as advertised. One final comment: taking a picture of a PowerPoint presentation from 22 feet away and having KNFB Reader recognise it was purely a publicity stunt. I can do the same with any other OCR app and it will work just as well, so long as the image of the print is in focus. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Jul 2014, at 9:48, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > That seems an unfair assumption to make, given that we have no information. > MBraille is a blind-specific app, but it gets regular updates, the developer > runs a discussion list for his product, and he is responsive to user > feedback. I'm just saying we can't know the future of any app if said app > hasn't even been released yet. Plus, to my knowledge, this will be this > company's first ap, so we have no reputation to use as a guide. >> On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, it reminds meow the bookshare read2go app. $20, and it's barely >> updated, and hasn't even taken advantage of the iOS7 voice api openings and >> all that, and we still have to switch sections to get to more content than a >> section or chapter rather than it automatically scrolling. $20 for a dead >> app, and $99 for the same mortality of apps, for the blind. Voice-dream, >> however, services all, and is updated a lot. >> Devin Prater >> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. >>> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, andy. >>> >>> Well, that gives me pause about this app. >>> >>> I don't think there's one app I rely upon for regular use that hasn't >>> undergone regular upgrades, as newer devices are introduced and newer >>> versions of iOS are released. I'm hesitant to consider investing $99 in >>> what might be a "one and done" app whose developer isn't inclined towards >>> maintaining cutting edge functionality with the latest hardware and/or >>> software developments. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Andy Baracco >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:49 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App >>> >>> It hasn't been updated in a few years, and the phones it runs on haven't >>> been manufactured in years. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:12 PM >>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' >>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App >>> >>> I'm curious if users of the established KNFB app with the Nokia can comment >>> on whether and how often the app was upgraded? Was it "one and done" or did >>> it undergo continuing development? >>> >>> Thanks. Keith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Karl Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:38 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App >>> >>> I don't know about the apps such as Prizmo but when I used the KNFB app on >>> my old Nokia phone I did on occasion get information off my laptop screen >>> when the computer would suddenly not come up with speech and find out if I >>> needed to hit enter or escape or whatever. I also read my XM radio screen >>> at >>> times. Sometimes you get a lot of junk with the scan but usually I could >>> get >>> enough information to tell me what I needed to do. >>> >>> Karl >>> >>> >>> __________ >>> >>> Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant Axis >>> 4304 South El Camino St. >>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129 >>> >>> Phone: 866-824-7885 >>> Fax: 866-824-7885 >>> E-mail: k...@axistech.net >>> Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com >>> >>> Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech >>> >>> My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 1:22 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App >>> >>> so I should be able to read my computer screen and other screens that have >>> minues with this app? >>> >>>> On 7/9/2014 2:21 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >>>> Yes, all of the mentioned apps do real-time OCR directly on the iPhone. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 8 Jul 2014, at 11:59, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" >>> <hank.smith...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> will it do real time ocr? >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/7/2014 4:48 PM, Fred Olver wrote: >>>>>> It will be available in late August. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fred Olver >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky" <beckyas...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:24 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all >>>>>> When will you be able to purchase this app? >>>>>> Vecky Sabo >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 12:18 PM, AppleGourmet <sen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> About five years ago, one of my patients had purchased the KNFB >>>>>> Reader >>> with the Nokia phone for about $1250. 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