What would be the point of reorienting both the phone and the document to be
scanned? They would be in the same orientation to one another, wouldn't
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From: "Deb Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Well I actually did not.
On 9/18/14, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Deb,
If you put the phone in landscape, do you also have to put the document
into
landscape as well?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
I know this is what they say and I sure don't want to dispute that.
But personally I had the best success with Jonathan's strategy of
putting the phone in landscape mode. It might be just that I can
position it better in landscape.
On 9/18/14, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:
I contacted support at KNFB Reader and was advised to use portrait mode
if
possible, both for the document layout and with the phone.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kayaker <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying
that taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a
portrait
improves results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels
lost
is on the order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides
to
meaningless background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape
I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue.
Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.
--k
Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
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On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote:
There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better
results.
I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille
Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand
photography.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom
<[email protected]>
wrote:
I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of
the document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've
been
thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not
hold
the phone with the camera pointing to the top of the document but
rather
as if i had it in landscape mode?
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]>:
Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what
you're
doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the
phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by
putting
a page of text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or
visually. Then hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the
page. Use the vibration feedback so that the phone stops vibrating,
indicating you have the angle right, then take the picture. For
further
feedback before you take the picture, you might use the field of
view
report, particularly in the early stages.
Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom
<[email protected]>
wrote:
What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of
gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique
for this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback when all
text's
detected? Anyways now i know that it's me and not the app that's
stupid.:-)
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <[email protected]>:
I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it
really
is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small
bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a
beige
background. The results were very quick and about 95% accurate!
Harry
On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece <[email protected]> wrote:
Eileen;
I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s.
If and, when I do, I'let everyone know.
Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Jonathan,
Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this
time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on
which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this
thread.
For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased
either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to post on
the
accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that they
originally
installed the app on. Also, if one can also comment on the use
of
the app with the 6 plus in particular because of the optical
stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use
of
the app was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand.
Thanks so much for your first impressions.
Best,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G
<[email protected]> wrote:
It is now available on the app store to download.
Regards, Feliciano
Like my Facebook page:
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327
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Sent from the Super-iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Jonathan,
So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store?
Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you
just holding the phone over the page or item?
Thanks so much, this is very encouraging!
Brian M
From:
[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader
on
my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed.
I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even
when it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu
fairly well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it read
a
letter I received in the mail. The feedback one gets via
vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. You
can
use the field of view report if you need to for even more
information about camera positioning and angle.
And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and
getting
speech.
It's early days but this has actually exceeded my
expectations.
Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found
nothing
this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional aids.
Outstanding stuff.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
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