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Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Carol Forrester <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am no longer a member please stop bothering me >> On 5 Nov 2014, at 11:53, Ben Mustill-Rose <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> For anyone who's wondering, the potential problems with the 6+ are in >> no way what so ever related to the problems with the Samsung drives >> that the author noted in the article. The Samsung drives suffered from >> a firmware (E.G. purely software) issue where the firmware failed to >> take into account different voltage requirements for old data, which >> resulted in slow read speeds. If (and it's a very big if for me) by >> mear coincidence the 6+ has the same *software* problem, Apple would >> be able to fix it remotely in the form of an iOS update in the same >> way that baseband firmware is sometimes updated without recalling >> products. >> >> I also doubt any industry *experts* are questioning the reliability of >> TLC NAND as a whole. The technology has been around for a long time >> now & its limitations have always been known by people who really >> understand it. In simple terms you aren't able to write as much data >> to TLC NAND as you are SLC & MLC. Additionally, performance of TLC on >> its own will be lower than that of SLC (the fastest) and MLC (a middle >> ground), but companies employ many different techniques to counteract >> this limitation. For example, the Samsung EVO drives have a certain >> amount of SLC cache which is used to hold data when the drive is being >> written to for a sustained amount of time. When things carm down or >> when the cache is filled, data is transparently moved from the SLC to >> the TLC. >> >> A bit of a rant I know, but as someone who sells hard drives I felt >> that I had to. >> >> Cheers, >> Ben. >> >>> On 11/5/14, RobH. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> My guess is that you are much lighter users of the devices, than those >>> bringing out the problem. >>> We can all live with potential weaknesses, while we don't over-stress them. >>> >>> Rh. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Scott Erichsen" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:24 AM >>> Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise >>> Questions about Controller I.C. >>> >>> >>> My 128gb iPhone6 works fine here as well. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Rose Combs >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 10:54 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise >>> Questions about Controller I.C. >>> >>> My iPhone 6 128 is working well, no turning on and off problems, no >>> crashes. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:46 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise >>> Questions about Controller I.C. >>> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> Maybe Tim Cook's announcement that he is gay means Apple is entering a new >>> era of honesty and admitting mistakes and they'll be transparent regarding >>> the iPhone 6 Plus 128 Gb crashing issue *smile*. >>> Below is a link to an article about a monument for Steve Jobbs in St. >>> Petersburg, Russia, which after Tim Cook's announcement was taken down: >>> >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/11/03/russian-monument-to-steve-jobs-taken-down-after-apple-ceo-cook-says-he-is-gay/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:29 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Potential Recall: Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions >>> about Controller I.C. >>> >>> See link to article at end of text. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Huge Potential Recall >>> Technical Defects of iPhone 6+ Raise Questions about Controller IC >>> >>> November 2014 >>> Functional defects in some of Apple's latest smartphones have been >>> observed. >>> >>> According to overseas IT news sites on Nov. 2, problems have been reported >>> related to data storage in the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+. >>> >>> Business Insider reported on Oct. 24 that a number of 128GB iPhone 6+ users >>> have reported functional defects via Twitter. When owners switch between >>> apps or check notifications, the phone is said to inexplicably crash or >>> enter a reboot loop. >>> >>> Apple Insider also reported on Oct. 23 that some owners have replaced their >>> iPhone 6+ four times. It was also pointed out that Apple's recent iOS 8.1 >>> update did not fix these defects. >>> >>> Some in the industry point out that considering that technical defects >>> mainly occur in the 128GB version of the iPhone 6 Plus, there might be a >>> problem in the controller IC of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND flash. >>> >>> TLC flash is a type of solid-state NAND flash memory that stores three bits >>> of data per flash media cell. It can store two to three times as much data >>> as a single-level cell (SLC) that stores one bit of data and a multi-level >>> cell (MLC) solid-state flash memory that stores two bits of data. Moreover, >>> TLC flash is more affordable. However, TLC is slower than SLC or MLC in >>> reading and writing data. >>> >>> To reduce cost, Apple reportedly used TLC NAND flash in the 128GB version >>> of >>> the iPhone 6+ and some other models. Previously, TLC NAND was used in some >>> iPads, whereas more expensive but more stable MLC NAND was used in most of >>> the iPhone series. >>> >>> As numerous reports of low read performance of the Samsung SSD 840 and 840 >>> EVO using TLC NAND flash have surfaced on the Internet, a problem in the >>> controller IC is considered to be the more likely cause of the defects. As >>> the controversy over the SSD 840 and 840 EVO grew, Samsung embarked on >>> firmware upgrades. Some in the industry think that if TLC flash is indeed >>> the cause of the defects, Apple might recall all of the products that have >>> been sold so far. >>> >>> http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/7084/huge-potential-recall-technical- >>> defects-iphone-6-raise-questions-about-controller-ic >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >>> >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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