Earlier today, I put a question to the list about making ringtones with iTunes 12. Then, I saw this conversation, which doesn't change anything from the way it was done in iTunes 11. I guess I should clarify my question...
When I do the ctrl+I to go to Get info; then I press the spacebar on the Options button, the start and stop places are read-only. Whether I check or uncheck the box, I am unable to put the amount of time that I need to in order to create my tone. All help would truly be appreciated in this matter. I am truly stumped. Sharonda On 11/24/14, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think much of anything about it since I have not used it. I have > used a couple of apps like Ringtone Architect or Ringtone Wizard and they > all work, I know you can use Goldwave or other audio editors to make a 40 > second segment of a song and then convert it with a multitude of programs to > m4A/m4r, but the point for me is that I like to use iTunes simply because > it's on my computer anyways and no matter which program or app I use to make > my ringtone, I'll need iTunes to transfer the tones I make to my phone. > Therefore I just use iTunes all the way and there is no need for me to > install another application on my computer or to use an app on my phone > where I then have to email myself the ringtone, use iTunes file sharing to > grab it or save it to Dropbox. There are many ways to skin a cat, nasty > little creatures they are *smile*, and there are many ways to make a > ringtone. But there is only one way to get that ringtone to your phone and > that is with iTunes and as far as I am concerned it works as good as > anything to make the ringtone. Only thing I can't do with iTunes is fade the > last 4 or 5 seconds of my 40 second ringtone, but I can usually find a > segment which when it ends abruptly still sounds OK and in any case, I > rarely hear the end of my ringtone since if I don't pick up before the call > usually goes to voice mail well before the ringtone runs out. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of rafal > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Creating ringtones from songs using iTunes 12 - the complete > guide > > > > What do you think about iringer? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 2:11 AM > > Subject: Creating ringtones from songs using iTunes 12 - the complete guide > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > As promised, here is as complete a guide as I could come up with describing > how you can make ringtones from your songs using iTunes 12. This has > headings, both level 1 and 2 which you can use if you want to get back to a > particular section. After explaining the process and after the "Clean up" > heading is another heading called "More details about adding to library and > syncing" and it goes into more details about how to correctly rename the > file extension and how to sync your tones to your phone. > > I did it this way because for more advanced users some of my descriptions > may already contain more details than necessary, but for people who are new > to technology or less experienced with Windows commands it is hopefully > useful. > > I also realize that you can add ringtones to your library by copying them > into the "Automatically Add to Library" folder. If you prefer to do this > than that's fine, I personally prefer to put stuff into the folder where it > belongs and add it to the library either by simply playing it or by using > the "Add /File to Library" or "Add Folder to Library" option in the iTunes > File menu. > > I wanted to provide a tutorial on how to make ringtones from songs since > several people asked for it and I did the same for iTunes 11. I don't want > to start a debate on how to do it better by using a different program to > create the ringtone, if anybody feels they know of a better way than all I > can say is go ahead and create your own tutorial and this way people can > choose which method they want to use. > > > > Creating ringtones from songs using iTunes 12 > > Note: These instructions are based on doing this on a Windows 7 laptop with > Jaws 16. Most of this should work fine with other screenreaders except of > course for Jaws specific commands like "route Jaws cursor to PC cursor" and > "left mouse click with Jaws". You would simply have to know or find out > which are equivalent commands in Window Eyes, NVDA or whatever other > screenreader you might use. > > > > > Basic steps > > > > > 1. Find the song you want > > 2. Press Control+I for "Get Info", tab to the options button, tab to start > and end time and set end time to no more than 40 seconds. > > 3. Right click on your song and select "Create AAC Version" > > 4. Press Control+C on the newly created 40 second version of the song to > copy it to the clipboard, open your iTunes Media\Tones folder and use > Control+V to paste the song into the folder. > > 5. Go to the Tools menu of your Windows Explorer window, go to Folder > Options and the View tab, make sure "Hide extensions for known file types" > > is Off. > > 6. Rename the .M4A extension to M4R. > > 7. Press enter on the newly renamed file to play it in iTunes, this > automatically adds it to your Tones library. > > 8. Connect your phone, make sure Sync All Tones is selected or if you sync > selected tones, make sure your new ringtone is checked, then sync your > phone. > > > > > detailed instructions > > > > > 1. Find the song you want to make into a ringtone in your Music library in > iTunes. > > > > 2. Right click, use the application menu key or Shift+F10 and select "Get > Info". You can also use The shortcut key which is Control+I. > > > > 3. Tab to the "Options" button (should be 8 tabs) and activate it by > pressing the spacebar or enter. > > Note that nothing obvious happens, but visually the "Options" content now is > on the screen and you have to tab to it. Unfortunately the cursor seems to > go back to the beginning of this entire screen, but instead of using tab > about 15 times, you can use F6 about six or seven times to get to where you > enter the start and stop time for the ringtone. > > > > > > > > Changing Start and Stop time > > > > > 4. The first item you get to will just say "Start read only", then if you > tab once there is a checkbox which is read as "0 checkbox not checked" and > if you tab again you will be on the actual field where you can type in a > start time and which by default is always read as "0 o'clock read only". > > The only way to get into the edit field for start and stop time that works > for me is as follows: > > 1. Route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor by pressing Jaws Key+NumPad > Minus. > > 2. Do a left click with Jaws Key+NumPad Slash. > > 3. Jaws will say "button edit" and you can now delete the 0 and type > in the start time you want. > > It is not necessary to first check the start time checkbox, if you change > the value it will get checked automatically. > > > > usually you start at the beginning of the song, i.e. 0:00, but if the song > starts very slow you may want to find a good spot a few seconds from the > beginning where you start the ringtone. > > If you do change the start time, make sure you don't press enter after > typing in your time because this will take you all the way back to the > beginning and you have to tap about 16 times or press F6 a bunch of times to > get back to the stop time. Instead just press tab from the edit field to go > to "Stop". > > > > 5. Here again you first have the "Stop read only" label, than the "0 > checkbox not checked" and lastly the field where you can edit the stop time. > By default the stop time is the total length of the song. > > As with start time, , route Jaws cursor to PC cursor, then left click. You > are now in the edit field and the cursor is at the end of the time, you can > left arrow across it or simply delete it all and type in your stop time. > > > > Make sure that the stop time doesn't exceed the start time by more than 40 > seconds which is the maximum length of a ringtone. > > > > 6. After you enter your stop time you want to press the OK button so you can > play the song and listen to how your segment sounds. Instead of tabbing > about 12 times to get to the OK button, you can now just press Enter and if > you press Enter a second time it will take you back to your song listing and > if you press enter a third time the song will play. > > > > Only the part of the song you selected will play and you can see if it > sounds good the way it is. > > If it stops in the middle of a note or word you can make it a few seconds > shorter to find a better place. > > I usually set the stop time to 39 or 40 seconds and then make it shorter to > make it sound good. > > > > > A Note on the start and stop time format > > > > > The start time is displayed as 0:00 where the first 0 means 0 minutes, then > a ":" and then the 00 after that is for the seconds. > > The stop time by default has the ending time of the song, for example > > 3:23.46 where the first 3 is the number of minutes, then the ":", then the > next 2 digits are the seconds and then a "." and the last number or numbers > is I guess maybe in one tenth of a second or even one hundreds, not quite > sure, but it's a very small increment. > > > > > Creating the AAC version of your selection > > > > > 7. Bring up the context menu with a right click, press the application menu > key or Shift+F10 and select "Creat AAC Version". > > Almost immediately you will hear that tri-tone iTunes makes when it's > finished doing something. > > This will create an AAC version of the song for only the section of the song > you specified. > > This new short song will appear right underneath the original song in your > list of songs, so you just have to down arrow once to find it. > > You can press enter to play it one last time and to make sure it is as you > want it. > > > > Note: > > If you don't see a "Create AAC Version option when you right click on the > song, go to "Edit" and "Preferences" or use the shortcut which is > Control+Comma. > > On the General tab click on Import settings, the shortcut is Alt+O. > > Verify that the AAC encoder settings are selected, if MP3 is selected as the > encoder you have to change it to AAC. > > Also make sure you select iTunes Plus" for the quality setting so you get a > good quality ringtone. > > > > > Copying, renaming, adding to library and syncing > > > > > 8. Select the newly created short AAC version of the song in iTunes and > press CTRL+C for "copy". Open your iTunes folder (most likely in "My Music", > go to the "iTunes Media" folder and the "Tones" or "Ringtones" folder. Press > Control+V to paste the song into the Ringtones folder. > > > > 9. Right click on the file and select rename or press the shortcut which is > F2. Change the extention for the file which will be .M4A to .M4R. Confirm > that you want to rename the file. > > > > Note: > > If you press F2 and don't see the extention, go to "Tools" and "Folder > Option". On the "View Tab" turn off "Hide Extentions for known file types". > > You can turn it back on after you are done creating your ringtones. > > > > 10. After you have renamed the song with the .M4R extention, press Enter on > the song which will start playing your new ringtones in iTunes. This step is > important because by playing it, the tone will automatically be added to > your Tones library. > > > > 11. Sync your iPhone with iTunes and your new ringtone will be available. > > > > Note: > > If you have "Sync selected ringtones" turned on, you first have to go to > your phone under Devices, tab to the Tones tab, check it and then check the > ringtone you created in the list of ringtones before it will sync to your > phone. > > > > > Clean-Up > > > > 1. When you are done you can delete the short version of the song you > created from your iTunes library. > > Go back to the Music Library, find the short version of the song you created > and press delete, when prompted select "Move to recycle bin". > > This is OK because you already moved the ringtone to the Ringtones folder > and no longer need this copy of it. > > > > 2. Remember to uncheck the start and stop time checkboxes for the original > song otherwise only the selected part of the song will play. > > Use Control+I for Get Info, tab to the Options button and activate it. Now > use F6 until you get to Start, tab once and uncheck the checkbox. Tab to the > Stop checkbox and uncheck it as well. > > Tab to OK and press the spacebar. > > > > > More details about adding to library and syncing > > > > > > Assumption and the Tones folder > > > > > When you installed iTunes the default location where iTunes data is kept is > your Music folder. If you use Windows 7 and your user name is "MyName", this > would be at c:\users\MyName\music. > > Here you would have an iTunes folder and in that iTunes folder is a > subfolder called "iTunes Media". > > Inside iTunes Media are subfolders for the various media types. These > folders (you may not have all of them) would be things like Audio Books, > Automatically Add to iTunes, Books, Downloads, Home Videos, Mobile > Applications, Movies, Music, Podcasts, Tones and TV Shows. > > If you have never purchased a movie or TV show, chances are you may not have > these folders. > > > > If you don't have a Tones folder, you can create one just using standard > Windows commands, then put your ringtones into that folder. Don't worry > about any of the default ringtones Apple provides, they are part of iOS and > won't appear anywhere. > > > > > Ringtone format > > > > > For ringtones to work on an iPhone, they must be in Apple's AAC format and > have an extension of m4r. > > You can rename any AAC file (MPEG-4 Audio File) of 40 seconds or less to > have the m4R extension. > > If you have to change the extension, do the following: > > > > 1. In your Tones folder, press "Alt+T" for the Tools menu. > > 2. Up arrow once to select "Folder Options" which is at the very > bottom of that menu hence you can up arrow to wrap around to the end and get > to it right away. > > You could also just press Alt+T followed by "o". > > 3. Press Control+Tab to go to the "View tab" of the multi-tab > dialogue which opens. > > 4. Your screenreader should say something like "Treeview, Files > and Folders, 18 items". > > 5. Arrow down until you get to an items which says "Hide > extensions for known file types, on" and press the spacebar to change it to > "off". > > 6. Tab to "OK" and activate it with spacebar or enter. > > > > > If you now check any tones you have in your folder you will hear the name > followed by .m4r and if you have any that are still m4a, use the F2 (Rename) > command and just change the "a" to an "r". You will see the following > warning when you change a file extension, in this case go ahead and select > "Yes": > > > > Rename > > If you change a file name extension, the file might become unusable. > > Are you sure you want to change it? > > Yes No > > > > Also remember that you can't just rename an MP3 file/ringtone by changing > the .mp3 extension to .m4r, this will not work since it's a completely > different format and > > you would have to first convert the MP3 ringtone to the AAC format and then > rename it. > > > > I also suggest you go back into Tools, Folder Options and set Hide > extensions for known file types back to On in order to avoid accidently > changing the extension of a file. > > > > > Adding Tones to your Tones library in iTunes > > > > > Now that your tones are in the Tones folder, you still have to add them to > your iTunes library. You can do this in a couple of different ways. My 2 > favorite methods are this: > > > > 1. If you only have a few tones, you can just press enter on each > one. This will open iTunes if it's not already open and start the tone > playing. You can stop it by pressing the spacebar, Alt+Tab back to your > Tones folder and repeat until you have played all the tones you want to add. > Each time as the tone plays it is added to the Tones library (shortcut key > in iTunes to get to that is Control+8). > > 2. If you have a lot of tones, just close your Tones folder and > open iTunes. Go to the Tones library with Control+8. Now press Alt+F to get > to the File menu and select the "Add Folder to Library". > > A standard Windows Open dialogue appears, browse to your Tones folder, then > tab to "Select" and activate it by pressing enter or spacebar. This will add > all tones in your Tones folder to the tones library. > > You can use F6 or tab to find the list view of Tones and arrow down through > the list to see if they are all there, pressing enter on any of them will > start playing it. Your Tones are now ready to be synced to your phone. > > > > > Syncing Tones to your iPhone > > > > > 1. Connect your iPhone to the computer and open iTunes. Find your > device (easiest is to use Control+F to go to the search box, then tab a few > times, it should be right after the "More" radio button). > > 2. Tab or use F6 until you get to the treeview which starts with > "Summary". F6 probably gets you there if you press it 3 or so times. > > 3. Arrow down to "Tones", typing "T O" should get you there right > away. > > 4. Tab past all the read only stuff until you get to "Sync Tones" > and make sure the checkbox is checked. > > 5. Tab a couple more times, you will have 2 controls/options: > "Sync all tones" and one tab more "Sync selected tones". Check the one you > want. > > If you check to sync all tones then you can just tab to the "Apply" button > or go to the file menu, arrow to Devices (use v for the shortcut) and then > select to sync. > > If you check to sync selected tones you have to tab into the list view of > all your tones, arrow down through them and check the ones you want, then go > to Apply or sync. > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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