Hi Don, I guess it all depends on how serious you are with these services. I prefer quality and so far it seems that Tidal is definitely a step above the rest although Deezer offers a $20 subscription which they say also includes lossless format streaming. I will have to sit down and talk to sonos, submit some diagnostic reports from my system and see if they can find out why I am getting this behavior where songs only play part way and then skip. I had signed up with a german service called Aupeo and experienced the same behavior and just thought it was because it was a much less expensive subscription and just not as good. I have 1 Sonos connect at my business as well and it's wired into my router and I have experienced the same with Deezer. My internet connection there is ADSL with 25 Mbps down and 5 Mbps up which should be plenty fast enough even for lossless streaming.
I don't know what kind of bandwidth Netflix requires, but I never have any issues with it via my Apple TV which is connected wirelessly to my home network. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Breda Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sonos speakers Hi Sieghard I had a subscription to Tidal and gave it up. I also have a deezer subscription and like it very much. I have never once had the problem you describe with deezer. I didn't like tidal all that much only because their search results seemed rather limitted. I must say I do have complaints with most music services regardign searches and results but Tidal never seemd to display all the hits for a search query either in the iPhone app or the sonos implementation. For some reason they never seem to display all the results they have for a search. I finally let the subscription go. I currently subscribe to deezer, beats, and google play music. Not sure yet what I will settle on. One reason is because I dont' know what Apple is going to do with beats yet. Don On 12/18/2014 2:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Don, > > Good thing I read your reply before answering Dave's questions, your > descriptions are very well put and right on the money. Only thing I would add > for Dave is that if you want to connect external sources like your CD player > or minidisc player, you have to go with the Play 5 as it is the only player > apart from the Connect and connect Amp which has an input. The Play 3 sounds > very nice as well and even the Play 1 with a Sonos sub is quite amazing, but > neither the Play 1 or Play 3 have an input. Anyhow, if you want the best > sound a set of Play 5 are the way to go and it's only a $100 price difference > per player between the Play 3 and Play 5. > > Keep in mind that Sonos does offer a 45-day satisfaction guaranty so if you > think you are ready to give this a try just call Sonos and order your > equipment, then enjoy and decide after a few weeks of hands on experience if > it's for you. Chances are you'll love it. > > I'm just waiting for Sonos to add support for the new Tidal music service. > They just send me an offer for a 2-months subscription at 40% off the regular > price of $19.99 per months and I was listening to some stuff via the Tidal > iPhone app using my $200 V-Mota headset and it sounded amazing. Tidal streams > in lossless FLAC format so if you have high-end equipment it is really worth > it. I also have a Deezer subscription which I received for free with my > latest Sonos purchase and for some reason the stream constantly jumps ahead > to the next song, it barely plays a song to the end, but half way through it > jumps to the next song. Sonos tells me that is because of my internet > connection, but I am getting about 30 to 35 Mbps down and 8 to 9 Mbps up with > a reasonable ping time so I don't quite understand this and when I was > streaming via the Tidal app on my iPhone I listened for an hour without a > single drop-out or interruption. Anyhow, I think tidal will be worthwhile to > look at once it's on Sonos. The app is a bit cluttered here and there, but it > is fully accessible. I hope their Sonos implementation will be full-featured > and not like Spotify where you can only access a fraction of the features. > This is one reason why I just cancelled my Spotify Premium subscription, I'd > rather pay a bit more for Tidal and get better features and the much higher > quality. Once Tidal is available via my Sonos system I'll do a separate > post/review. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Don Breda > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Sonos speakers > > Hi Dave. > > I will insert my answers between your quoted questions. > > > On 12/18/2014 12:40 PM, Dave Sheridan wrote: >> Hi List >> >> I'm looking for hifi equipment as most of what I have I've been using for >> close on 30 years. There were some useful posts a few weeks ago regarding >> Sonos speakers from which I have one or two questions which hopefully you >> can help me with. Am I right in thinking that the Sonos Sub along with >> either the Sonos 1, 3 or 5 would provide very good sound for listening to >> music? Secondly, > I would suggest two play 5s and a sub for one room. > > Really makes for some nice listening and also will help with connecting > other analog devices to your sonos system, see below. > > >> whilst I have have wifi at home it can be a little variable so would the >> Sonos Boost be a worthwhile purchase along with the other products? > The advantage of the boost is that it allows you the freedom to put the > speakers anywhere you want. > > IF you don't have it then at leasone of your sonos speakers must connect > via ethernet cable to your router. This may restrict your ability to > plase the speakers where you really want them. In my opinion its not a > bad idea. > > The latest version of the sonos firmware howerver allows for wifi > connection to your router without a boost. Since your wifi seems > somewhat iffie I would suggest the boost as a good idea. > > >> Thirdly, although I have a significant amount of my cd collection on >> external hard drive, I still have a large collection of cds and would >> therefore want to use a cd player. Would this be easily connected to the >> speakers? Fourth, I have a large minidisc collection and good Sony minidisc >> player, would this easily be connectable to the speakers? > Having two play 5 speakers will allow you two line in connections to the > system so you could put your cd player on one and your mini disk player > on the other. > > >> Fifth, would control of such a system be better controlled through an >> iPhone, PC or MacBook or would any of these do the job? > I suggest most often control of your system will be done quite easily > and successfully through the iPhone and of course thats most desirable. > > I have found thogh that some things such as adding services and feeding > differernt streams to diffent rooms are accomplished more easily through > the pc controler but are doable on the iPhone. > > I have't had experience with the sonos controler on the mac but as I > recall it was not very useable so would probably be the last resort. > > I could be wrong about that though. > > >> Finally, whilst retaining my actual copies of cds would I benefit from >> purchasing space in the cloud to store my music and is playing music from >> the cloud straightforward? > In my opinion I rarely see a reason anymore to have music stored in my > home at all whether on cd or hard drive. > > Subscribing to a good music service such as deezer beats music or > something like that gives you access to a music collection it would take > ten life times and a billion dollars to amass. > > No need to waste storage space or physical storage space any more for music. > > Thats just my opinion and I am sure many will argue. > > To access the music collection from anywhere at any time is a true > luxury and easily accomplished these days without any investment in > hardware. > > If you want to put your cds on the cloud then google play music which is > supported by sonos gives you the best of both worlds. > > You have googles vast music collection at your finger tips as well as > having the ability to upload your own collection to the google play > music cloud so you have access to it anywhere. > > Hope this ehlps. > > Don > > >> I thank you for your time and any responses which will help me spend my >> money well. >> >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 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