On 02.08.21 13:30, Gal Hammer wrote:


On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 13:49, Max Reitz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 02.08.21 12:44, Gal Hammer wrote:
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 13:36, Dr. David Alan Gilbert
    > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >
    >     * Gal Hammer ([email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>) wrote:
    >     > Hello,
    >     >
    >     > When using NFS as a shared folder (mount type nfs4) with a
    Linux
    >     guest I
    >     > have the following issue:
    >     >
    >     > Guest:
    >     > $ ls -la /mnt/shared
    >     > total 8
    >     > drwxr-xrwx.  2  135  135 4096 Aug  2 13:08 .
    >     > dr-xr-xr-x. 17 root   root    224 May 23 10:58 ..
    >     > -rw-r--rw-.  1  135  135   27 Aug  2 13:07 readme.txt
    >     >
    >     > Host:
    >     > $ rm readme.txt
    >     >
    >     > Guest:
    >     > $ ls -la /mnt/shared
    >     > total 8
    >     > drwxr-xrwx.  2  135  135 4096 Aug  2 13:10 .
    >     > dr-xr-xr-x. 17 root   root    224 May 23 10:58 ..
    >     > -rw-r--rw-.  1  135  135   27 Aug  2 13:07
    >     .nfs0000000001b600d000000005
    >     >
    >     > Guest:
    >     > $ cat /mnt/shared/readme.txt
    >     > This is a readme.txt file.
    >     >
    >     > So it seems that the virtiofsd has a reference to the file
    which
    >     the guest
    >     > is not aware of and is unable to send a FUSE_FORGET message.
    >     This results
    >     > in a file not actually deleted (renamed to .nfsXXX) and is
    still
    >     accessible
    >     > by the guest.
    >     >
    >     > I have a similar problem when deleting a file from a Windows
    >     guest side.
    >     > The FUSE_READDIR(PLUS) commands add a reference count to files
    >     which the OS
    >     > doesn't have a file context for. However I was able to
    solve it
    >     (for now?)
    >     > by keeping track of returned files' inodes.
    >     >
    >     > Is this behaviour current and by design?
    >
    >     Current problem, not really by design; the problem is the
    O_PATH files
    >     that we have open for the inodes.  I thought if the guest
    sent the
    >     forget for the file then it got closed.
    >
    >
    > So if I understand then sending forget message for each inode
    returned
    > by readdir won't solve the problem because you need the open
    files for
    > inodes?

    virtiofsd internally keeps an lo_inode object for every inode that
    has
    been looked up at some point, and every such lo_inode contains an
    O_PATH
    fd referencing that inode.  I don’t know by heart what the conditions
    for dropping those lo_inode objects are.


I think it depends on the guest's forget message.

Yes, it looks like it.

    However, once it’s possible to use file handles to reference inodes
    instead of O_PATH fds (already in virtiofsd-rs, for virtiofsd there’s
    this series:
    https://listman.redhat.com/archives/virtio-fs/2021-July/msg00050.html
    <https://listman.redhat.com/archives/virtio-fs/2021-July/msg00050.html>),

    then giving the appropriate options (-o inode_file_handles -o
    modcaps=+dac_read_search) should result in no O_PATH fds being kept
    around anymore, so that deleting an inode on the host will result
    in the
    inode being truly deleted (unless the guest still has it open).


Will the guest will still need to send forget messages with this new feature?

I don’t think so.  With file handles, FDs should only be opened (and kept open) when the guest actually opens some file.  (Aside from temporary O_PATH FDs e.g. during a lookup.)

Max


    But with O_PATH fds, it’s kind of by design, I would say.


Thanks for the clarification.

    Gal.


    Max


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