Hi Stefan,

Great topic. I am also extremely interested in helping Virtio-net become
the standard for the networking industry (the universe of DPDK, etc).

On 22 April 2015 at 19:01, Stefan Hajnoczi <[email protected]> wrote:

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[Done.]

I think this approach could be fruitful in bringing virtio-net to
> VM-to-VM networking use cases.  Unless virtio-net is extended for this
> use case, I'm afraid DPDK and OpenDataPlane communities might steer
> clear of VIRTIO.
>

Questions:

- How fast is needed?

- How fast is the vhost-user support that shipped in DPDK 2.0?

- How fast would the new design likely be?

Our recent experience in Snabb Switch land is that networking on x86 is now
more of a HPC problem than a system programming problem. The SIMD bandwidth
per core keeps increasing that this erodes the value of traditional (and
complex) system programming optimizations. I will be interested to compare
notes with others on this, already on Haswell but more so when we have
AVX512.

Incidentally, we also did a pile of work last year on zero-copy NIC->VM
transfers and discovered a lot of interesting problems and edge cases where
Virtio-net spec and/or drivers are hard to match up with common NICs. Happy
to explain a bit about our experience if that would be valuable.

Cheers,
-Luke
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