On 03/07/2007 01:21 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 11:49 -0800, Dan Hecht wrote:
>> Jeremy, I saw you sent out the Xen version earlier, thanks.  Here's ours 
>> for reference (please excuse any formating issues); it's also lean. 
>> We'll send out a proper patch later after some more testing:
> 
> Ah. Bitching loud enough speeds things up. :)
> 

We've always planned to do this.  We just didn't want to create the 
dependency between paravirt_ops and clockevents too early such that they 
would depend on each other to merge to main line.  Now that they are 
both there, we are all for it.

>> /** vmi clockevent */
>>
>> static struct clock_event_device vmi_global_clockevent;
>>
>> static inline u32 vmi_alarm_wiring(struct clock_event_device *evt)
>> {
>>      return (evt == &vmi_global_clockevent) ?
>>              VMI_ALARM_WIRED_IRQ0 : VMI_ALARM_WIRED_LVTT;
>> }
>>
>> static void vmi_timer_set_mode(enum clock_event_mode mode,
>>                             struct clock_event_device *evt)
>> {
>>      u32 wiring;
>>      cycle_t now, cycles_per_hz;
>>      BUG_ON(!irqs_disabled());
>>
>>      wiring = vmi_alarm_wiring(evt);
>>      if (wiring == VMI_ALARM_WIRED_LVTT)
>>              /* Route the interrupt to the correct vector */
>>              apic_write_around(APIC_LVTT, LOCAL_TIMER_VECTOR);
> 
> Wire that in the hypervisor.
> 
>>      switch (mode) {
>>      case CLOCK_EVT_MODE_ONESHOT:
>>              break;
>>      case CLOCK_EVT_MODE_PERIODIC:
>>              cycles_per_hz = vmi_timer_ops.get_cycle_frequency();
>>              (void)do_div(cycles_per_hz, HZ);
>>              now = 
>> vmi_timer_ops.get_cycle_counter(vmi_counter(VMI_PERIODIC));
>>              vmi_timer_ops.set_alarm(wiring | VMI_PERIODIC,
>>                                      now, cycles_per_hz);
> 
>       paravirt_ops->paravirt_clockevent->set_periodic(vcpu, period);
> 

Huh?  paravirt_ops isn't a hypervisor interface, it's just a linux code 
abstraction.  The code on both sides of paravirt_ops is *linux* code, 
any way you cut it.  clockevents is already a linux code abstraction. 
why introduce the redundancy?


>>              break;
>>      case CLOCK_EVT_MODE_UNUSED:
>>      case CLOCK_EVT_MODE_SHUTDOWN:
> 
>       paravirt_ops->paravirt_clockevent->stop_event(vcpu, mode);
> 

You would be introducing the same redundancy.

> 
>>              switch (evt->mode) {
>>              case CLOCK_EVT_MODE_ONESHOT:
>>                      vmi_timer_ops.cancel_alarm(VMI_ONESHOT);
>>                      break;
>>              case CLOCK_EVT_MODE_PERIODIC:
>>                      vmi_timer_ops.cancel_alarm(VMI_PERIODIC);
>>                      break;
>>              default:
>>                      break;
>>              }
>>              break;
>>      default:
>>              break;
>>      }
>> }
> 
> This whole vmi_timer_ops thing is horrible. All hypervisors can share 
> paravirt_ops->paravirt_clockevent and retrieve the methods on boot.
> 

vmi_timer_ops.whatever is where the kernel <-> hypervisor boundary is 
crossed for VMI.

>> static int vmi_timer_next_event(unsigned long delta,
>>                              struct clock_event_device *evt)
>> {
>>      /* Unfortunately, set_next_event interface only passes relative
>>       * expiry, but we want absolute expiry.  It'd be better if were
>>       * were passed an aboslute expiry, since a bunch of time may
>>       * have been stolen between the time the delta is computed and
>>       * when we set the alarm below. */
>>      cycle_t now = vmi_timer_ops.get_cycle_counter(vmi_counter(VMI_ONESHOT));
>>
>>      BUG_ON(evt->mode != CLOCK_EVT_MODE_ONESHOT);
>>      vmi_timer_ops.set_alarm(vmi_alarm_wiring(evt) | VMI_ONESHOT,
>>                              now + delta, 0);
>>      return 0;
>> }
> 
> Great. Now we have:
> 
>        s64 event = startup_offset + ktime_to_ns(evt->next_event);
> 
>        if (HYPERVISOR_set_timer_op(event) < 0)
>                 BUG();
> and
> 
>       vmi_timer_ops.set_alarm(vmi_alarm_wiring(evt) | VMI_ONESHOT,    now + 
> delta, 0);
> 
> How will the next implementations look like ?
> 
>       lguest_program_timer(delta + lguest_current_time(), 
> LGUEST_TIMER_SHOOT_ONCE);
> 
>       virt_nextgen_ops.set_timer_event(delta, NO_WE_NEED_NO_FLAGS);
> 
>       .......
> 
> This is tinkering of the best. My understanding of the paravirt
> discussion at Kernel Summit was, that paravirt ops are exactly there to
> prevent the above random hackery in the kernel and to allow _ALL_
> hypervisors to interact via a sane interface inside of the kernel.
> 

No, that was not the point of paravirt_ops.  It is actually the complete 
opposite of the intention of paravirt_ops.  paravirt_ops' intent is 
exactly to allow for *multiple* hypervisor ABIs to exist in the kernel.

At kernel summit, paravirt_ops was proposed to allow for multiple 
hypervisor ABI's to be targeted by the kernel.  The code on both sides 
of paravirt_ops is *linux* code.

> You are just perverting the whole idea of a standartized
> paravirtualization interface.
> 
> This things can be done for clocksources, clockevents, interrupts (the
> generic irq code allows this) and probaly for a whole bunch of other
> stuff.
> 
> The current paravirt interface is completely insane and will explode
> into an unmaintainable nightmare within no time, if we keep accepting
> that crap further.
>
> No thanks.
>

Again, you are misunderstanding the intent of paravirt_ops and history 
behind it's development.


>> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC
>>
>> /* Replacement for lapic timer local clock event.
>>   * paravirt_ops.setup_boot_clock      = vmi_nop
>>   *       (continue using global_clock_event on cpu0)
>>   * paravirt_ops.setup_secondary_clock = vmi_timer_setup_local_alarm
>>   */
>> void __devinit vmi_timer_setup_local_alarm(void)
>> {
>>      struct clock_event_device *evt = &__get_cpu_var(local_clock_events);
>>
>>      /* Then, start it back up as a local clockevent device. */
>>      memcpy(evt, &vmi_clockevent, sizeof(*evt));
>>      evt->cpumask = cpumask_of_cpu(smp_processor_id());
>>
>>      printk(KERN_WARNING "vmi: registering clock event %s. mult=%lu 
>> shift=%u\n",
>>             evt->name, evt->mult, evt->shift);
>>      clockevents_register_device(evt);
>> }
>>
>> #endif
> 
> Why the hell do you need an lapic emulator here? This is exactly the
> kind of crap, we do not want to have. clockevents do not care which
> piece of hardware is calling them and we do not care how a particular
> hypervisor is wiring that hardware.
> 

Again, I said in a previous mail that we am fine with introducing our 
own interrupt handler rather than using the lapic one.


Dan
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