Dear Hugh,

Referring to my last email and your reply on that i have following updates
with some queries.

1) do i need to run bulk upload script every time i plan to do bulk upload?
2) is there any issue in using different folder for every next bulk upload?
3) So far i have using three steps but on 3rd step ( rdf_loader_run ()) i am
getting error (ERROR message attached with email)
   My steps are ( USING    CONDUCTOR  interface)
          step1)  run script of 'Bulk Loader Procedure and Sub-procedures'
          step2)  run '('C:/virtuoso-opensource/vad/grds1','*.rdf','
http://deri.ie/grds/ng#default' <http://deri.ie/grds/ng#default%27>)'
command to register files
          note : i am giving full path otherwise if give error that path not
found.
          step3)  run 'rdf_loader_run ();' command [result : C++ error, and
service stops]

I have even tried to do the above step using isql but gets same error.

What is the workaround as i am stuck now?
Should i need to take backup in case if some fatal error occur to backup my
so-far loaded triples?

Regards
Jamshaid

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Hugh Williams <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Jamshaid,
>
> There are any number of ways to upload RDF data into Virtuoso as detailed
> at:
>
> http://ods.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtRDFInsert
>
> Question is why is the BulkLoader script failing as probably other methods
> would fail also ?
>
> I don't see how you could be getting the same error as Luka was getting
> starting the server with lck file in place, so what exactly is the error you
> receive when attempting to upload the data files ?
>
> Also, are there any errors in the Virtuoso log file (virtuoso.log) which
> might give an indication as to the cause of the problem ?
>
>  Best Regards
> Hugh Williams
> Professional Services
> OpenLink Software
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>
> On 13 Nov 2010, at 13:09, Jamshaid Ashraf wrote:
>
> Dear Hugh,
>
> I am having C++ error while doing bulk upload of rdf file from a designated
> folder.
>
> Firt time when i followed the instruciton available at[1] i was able to
> load files with required named graphs IRI.
> Now, i attempted to follow the same steps to load an other round of files
> but getting same c++ error (reported earler by Luka)
>
> i did using conductor and also command line isql. steps were
>
> step1)  run script of 'Bulk Loader Procedure and Sub-procedures'  [result :
> successful]
> step2)  run '('C:/virtuoso-opensource/vad/grds','*.rdf','
> http://deri.ie/grds/ng#default' <http://deri.ie/grds/ng#default%27>)'
> command to register files [result: successful]
> step3)  run 'rdf_loader_run ();' command [result : C++ error, and service
> stops]
>
> I have spent almost a day on different variation to load file and need to
> meet some deadline.
>
> could you provide some other alternate approach to uplaod files to store
> with Graph IRI?
>
> regards
> jamshaid
>
>
> [1] http://ods.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtBulkRDFLoader
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Hugh Williams 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Luka/Jamshaid,
>>
>> We have been able to recreate this problem in-house now, the key being to
>> actually attempt to start Virtuoso from the command line prompt, which I
>> presume is what you have been doing as detailed in the VOS windows guide, as
>> opposed actually starting it using the Windows Service control manager or
>> from a machine restart with the windows service set to auto start, which is
>> what I was doing.
>>
>> This has been reported to development to be fixed as, although not harmful
>> the condition should be handle such that such messages are not displayed,
>> which would be disconcerting for users.
>>
>> I shall let you know when we have a fix ...
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Hugh Williams
>> OpenLink Software
>> Best Regards
>> Hugh Williams
>> Professional Services
>> OpenLink Software
>> Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>> Support: http://support.openlinksw.com
>> Forums: http://boards.openlinksw.com/support
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OpenLink
>>
>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 19:40, Jamshaid Ashraf wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am sharing because i had very similar expereince.
>>
>> I had the same error reported by Luka a month ago and Windows service log
>> gave the clue that "virtuoso.lck" is giving problem so it renamed it and i
>> worked fine. I noticed that when window crashes or you try to create service
>> then this error message come on booting system,  of C++ things reported by
>> Luka. Now i have set the service on manual node and manually start ans stop
>> when ever i shutdown windows. this is working fine, so far
>>
>> I am using Win XP 2002 professional and Vistuoso is 6.1.2
>>
>> Regards
>> Jamshaid Ashraf
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Hugh Williams 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Luka,
>>>
>>> Strange that this Visual Studio runtime error occurs on server startup
>>> when the lck file is still in place, as I have not seen this error before.
>>> Can you please confirm the Windows XP version and Service Pack level you are
>>> using so we can check this on a similar version in-house ?
>>>
>>> Once you have created the Virtuoso windows service, you can then use the
>>> standard Windows  <code>Services</code> Manager to start and stop the
>>> Virtuoso Server, which would be identified in the Server Manager with a name
>>> of <code>OpenLink Virtuoso Server [Instance Name]</code>. The created
>>> Virtuoso service can also be set to auto start  using the Windows Services
>>> Manager such that your Virtuoso Server automatically start when the Windows
>>> machine is started. The Windows Services Manager can be accessed from
>>> <code>Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Services</code> menu items.
>>>
>>> I have added a note the the online docs to highlight this point for those
>>> unfamiliar with this Service ...
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Hugh Williams
>>> Professional Services
>>> OpenLink Software
>>> Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>> Support: http://support.openlinksw.com
>>> Forums: http://boards.openlinksw.com/support
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OpenLink
>>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 15:41, Luka wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hugh, thank you very much. It's working after deleting virtuoso.lck and
>>> creating new instance.
>>>
>>> Now, please tell me is there quicker way to start the service each time?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Luka
>>>
>>> On 7.11.2010 2:13, Hugh Williams wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Luka,
>>>
>>> What files exist in the %VIRTUOSO_HOME%\database folder when you are 
>>> attempting to start the database, if the file "virtuoso.lck" exists in this 
>>> location please remove and try again. Please also check the virtuoso.log 
>>> file in this same directory to see if it reports the reason the database 
>>> failed to start. If the problem continues then from a command line prompt 
>>> in the %VIRTUOSO_HOME%\database run the following command to start the 
>>> Virtuoso server in foreground mode and provide the output produced:
>>>
>>>     ..\bin\virtuoso-t -f
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Hugh Williams
>>> Professional Services
>>> OpenLink Software
>>> Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>>> Support: http://support.openlinksw.com
>>> Forums: http://boards.openlinksw.com/support
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/OpenLink
>>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 00:03, Luka wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> few days ago I followed the instructions from: 
>>> http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VOSUsageWindows
>>> and successfully installed Virtuoso on WinXP. I had no problem creating 
>>> database and opening conductor at port 8890.
>>> What I'm trying to say is that everything worked as expected.
>>>
>>> Today I wanted to continue my play with Virtuoso but server was down when I 
>>> tried opening localhost:8890/conductor
>>> So, in order to start server I typed: virtuoso-t -I "Instance Name" 
>>> +service start
>>> error window popped out:
>>>
>>> <debug.jpg>
>>>
>>> If I ignore it I get another window in a minute informing me that 
>>> virtuoso-t.exe crashed :(
>>>
>>> Do you know what might be a problem?
>>>
>>> BEst regards,
>>> Luka
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