Hi Hugh,
I am aware of the (un)defined output of DESCRIBE but here are some reason why I think this output is "wrong":

* SPARQL rec says:
" The |DESCRIBE| form " .... assembles a single RDF graph by taking a "description" which can come from ANY information available including the target RDF Dataset
* Graphs used is not predictable
* In the same way of undefined default-graph, DESCRIBE without specifying a graph could be logically the union of the information from all the graph.
* sql:describe-mode "CBD" behave differently (result from all the graphs)

That said, can you help me in changing the default behaviour or make a custom DESCRIBE the default one? In my Virtuoso 7.1 I can only find the procedures DB.DBA.SPARQL_DESC_DICT_LOD (and PHYSICAL) that call the default one. It could be very helpful for me to look at the existing ones (default and CBD) in order to write my own.

Thanks a lot
Nicola


On 22/04/2014 22:05, Hugh Williams wrote:
Hi Nicola,

The SPARQL specification does not define the precise output of DESCRIBE, so 
different applications may need different results for the same subject, see the 
following documentation for more details:

        
http://docs.openlinksw.com/virtuoso/rdfsparql.html#rdfsqlfromsparqldescribe

Thus you should specify the graphs or mode to use otherwise the graphs 
"guessed" might can be different than expected ie not the same as the select 
query ...

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On 22 Apr 2014, at 16:55, ghirardi nicola <n.ghira...@cineca.it> wrote:

Hi Hugh,

You can find my test sparql endpont here:
http://rdi.cineca.it/query/public/sparql

Describe query:
DESCRIBE 
<http://rlink.cineca.it/id/ResearchContent/0156586eb956402a36342f713c3f2dd6>

Select query:
SELECT * WHERE { 
<http://rlink.cineca.it/id/ResearchContent/0156586eb956402a36342f713c3f2dd6> ?a 
?b.}

Thanks a lot.
Nicola

On 22/04/2014 17:51, Hugh Williams wrote:
Hi Nicola,

Are you able to provide a use case for recreation ie against one of our live 
endpoint like dbpedia.org/sparql or lod.openlinksw.com/sparql or datasets for 
local recreation ?

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Hugh Williams
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On 22 Apr 2014, at 10:02, ghirardi nicola <n.ghira...@cineca.it> wrote:

I'm facing the following error:
http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/22955/describe-in-virtuoso-unexpected-behaviour
Running sparql describe returns only triples within some graphs and not
the complete store.
It gives different result running select *
Nicola


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