>From today's meeting, taking to list.

Remote participation for users connecting via the PSTN though gateways into a 
VoIP conference platform raises some issues.

One of these is "registration" . There are hacks like PINs that can be made to 
work.

But to me, the biggest problem is that it is just really hard to make it work, 
especially for participants on the fringe of the PSTN. Echo cancellation may be 
impossible to provide without exceeding the 150ms latency interaction/interrupt 
threshold determined in Brian Rosen's research.

One doesn't necessarily need "broadband" to use IP. I've talked quite 
successfully between participants with EDGE mobile connections. But going over 
a long path of telephone network to a PSTN gateway, thence over IP to a 
conference platform is a recipe for disaster.

I therefore propose that our remote participation system neither require nor 
support dial-in telephone numbers. This assumption can greatly simplify the 
system, reduce operating expense, and reduce the probability of systemic 
marginal failure where the system "works" but not well enough to actually use.

Some argue that this would unfairly exclude people who can't get Internet 
connections, but I counter that it's certainly less of an exclusion than 
requiring them to physically attend the meeting, and it's far more unfair to 
make an IETF meeting fail for these who are actually using the Internet to 
participate in it.

--
dean
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